Still struggling.

[Socratic Meth Head]

All smoke and mirrors bullshit and unfounded assertions**. Keep trying if you think you can prove the existence of any god or "spirit realm"!

**Hint: assertions<>proof! Neither does fact-free argument, btw.

Does The Soul Exist? Evidence Says ‘Yes’
New scientific theory recognizes life’s spiritual dimension
Posted Dec 21, 2011

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bio...e-says-yes

I've come to conclude that ghosts are just earthbound souls who have not traveled on yet, and for some reason or another based on them, they still reside here. Many people who come back from death get to see and ask questions about earth, and one aspect is that we are all souls. Some are still here because they are scared to move forward after death, and some are even addicts still trying to go into the body of other drug addicts to feel the effects.

I was at a fourth of July party and this women who owned the house we were at started showing us pictures she took on her phone because she thought her home was haunted. Her son committed suicide in the home. One picture, had this really creepy face in it, which I wish I had to share. She told me of stories of things flying off the shelf, and everyone in a while she would walk into the kitchen and her trash can lid that was on a hinge was rocking back and forth.

There are plenty of stories out there of people I know personally with strange experiences. And many of these people are atheists, and don't like to talk about them, but there's a lot of strange things out there to suggest the soul exists outside the body.

You say you came to the conclusion about souls, but earlier you said these weren't your beliefs. Make up your mind please.

[scoobysnack]

Does The Soul Exist? Evidence Says ‘Yes’
New scientific theory recognizes life’s spiritual dimension
Posted Dec 21, 2011

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bio...e-says-yes

I've come to conclude that ghosts are just earthbound souls who have not traveled on yet, and for some reason or another based on them, they still reside here. Many people who come back from death get to see and ask questions about earth, and one aspect is that we are all souls. Some are still here because they are scared to move forward after death, and some are even addicts still trying to go into the body of other drug addicts to feel the effects.

I was at a fourth of July party and this women who owned the house we were at started showing us pictures she took on her phone because she thought her home was haunted. Her son committed suicide in the home. One picture, had this really creepy face in it, which I wish I had to share. She told me of stories of things flying off the shelf, and everyone in a while she would walk into the kitchen and her trash can lid that was on a hinge was rocking back and forth.

There are plenty of stories out there of people I know personally with strange experiences. And many of these people are atheists, and don't like to talk about them, but there's a lot of strange things out there to suggest the soul exists outside the body.

You say you came to the conclusion about souls, but earlier you said these weren't your beliefs. Make up your mind please.

What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

[KevinM1]

Sorry, where was the evidence in that article?

Yeah... aside from a psychologist misunderstanding quantum physics, I don't see anything of note in that article.

[ApeNotKillApe]

Sorry, where was the evidence in that article?

Yeah... aside from a psychologist misunderstanding quantum physics, I don't see anything of note in that article.

In other words...

[God of Mr. Hanky]

You say you came to the conclusion about souls, but earlier you said these weren't your beliefs. Make up your mind please.

What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

That's not the first time you've denied really believing what you have purported here as if you were all-in with it.

[pocaracas]

The truth is too important for me to suppress it.
[...]

Trying to expose people to information kind of reminds me of Platos allegory of the cave.

The truth.
Funny how theists always lean on this one word.

Truth is an accurate description of reality, made by people, for people.

This definition is fine and dandy, however one can conceive of the possibility of someone passing as truth that which is not true.
And, if there is no way at all to tell that it is not true, then there will always be someone thinking that it is true, as long as the idea is packaged properly.

So... why should one accept an idea as true, if it's not verifiable?
Considering the amount of unverifiable ideas that can come out of the human mind, the best position to adopt is to doubt any unverifiable claim.... unless it's completely inconsequential.

Some guys claim to have found gravitational waves?... great.. verify that!

Some guys found that neutrinos travel faster than light? great! Verify that! Oh.... not verified... neutrinos don't travel faster than light!

[Socratic Meth Head]

"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"Okay, (shows coke) here."
"Oh, you do..."
Theist
"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"You can't disprove it, my coke can works in mysterious ways!"

Prove your words by a credible source. Not the same conspiracy theory website. I don't want to hear what you alone think, I want to hear what the evidence says.

[scoobysnack]

"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"Okay, (shows coke) here."
"Oh, you do..."
Theist
"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"You can't disprove it, my coke can works in mysterious ways!"

Prove your words by a credible source. Not the same conspiracy theory website. I don't want to hear what you alone think, I want to hear what the evidence says.

What is your idea of a credible source, and why is your idea of a credible source credible in your mind?

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What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

That's not the first time you've denied really believing what you have purported here as if you were all-in with it.

I guess I could explain it this way. I've researched luciferianism and understand to an extent what they believe, but that doesn't mean I accept what they believe to be truth. I know they exist and believe in Lucifer, as I do, but I don't believe Lucifer is god like they do. I understand Lucifer to be the adversary of God which is the etymology of Satan. Too an extent the fact that they exist, proves God exists since that's an extension of the resistance to the universal. And what I mean by that is why would there be a group of very powerful people in many levels of our government fighting against God by taking the side of lucifer if God didn't exist? For me the dark side is interesting because it proves the existence of the opposition. And if there is opposition, what are they opposed to?

[Jehanne]

You say you came to the conclusion about souls, but earlier you said these weren't your beliefs. Make up your mind please.

What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

Watch and/or listen to this:

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates...-not-final

[God of Mr. Hanky]

"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"Okay, (shows coke) here."
"Oh, you do..."
Theist
"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"You can't disprove it, my coke can works in mysterious ways!"

Prove your words by a credible source. Not the same conspiracy theory website. I don't want to hear what you alone think, I want to hear what the evidence says.

What is your idea of a credible source, and why is your idea of a credible source credible in your mind?

---

That's not the first time you've denied really believing what you have purported here as if you were all-in with it.

I guess I could explain it this way. I've researched luciferianism and understand to an extent what they believe, but that doesn't mean I accept what they believe to be truth. I know they exist and believe in Lucifer, as I do, but I don't believe Lucifer is god like they do. I understand Lucifer to be the adversary of God which is the etymology of Satan. Too an extent the fact that they exist, proves God exists since that's an extension of the resistance to the universal. And what I mean by that is why would there be a group of very powerful people in many levels of our government fighting against God by taking the side of lucifer if God didn't exist? For me the dark side is interesting because it proves the existence of the opposition. And if there is opposition, what are they opposed to?

Got any blue cheese to go on that word salad?