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Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
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Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
Interesting perspective.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/16/entertainm...index.html

Quote:When asked about his stance on guns, Hughes said, "Did your French gun control stop a single f****** person from dying at the Bataclan? And if anyone can answer yes, I'd like to hear it, because I don't think so. I think the only thing that stopped it was some of the bravest men that I've ever seen in my life charging headfirst into the face of death with their firearms."

Quote:Hughes said that guns were the equalizer the night of the terror attacks.

"I hate it that it's that way," he said. "I think the only way that my mind has been changed is that maybe that until nobody has guns, everybody has to have them. Because I don't want to ever see something like this happen again."
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
Idiot.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 16, 2016 at 9:22 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Idiot.

I mean... I might not agree with him either, but until you're on stage one night when terrorists start killing anyone they can find, I think "idiot" is a pretty closed-minded thing to say. I pretty much think we'd be better off with as few guns as possible, but I'm not positive I wouldn't change my mind after the situation he was in.

Edit: I wrote that before you completely edited your reply.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 16, 2016 at 9:28 pm)The_Empress Wrote:
(February 16, 2016 at 9:22 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Idiot.

I mean... I might not agree with him either, but until you're on stage one night when terrorists start killing anyone they can find, I think "idiot" is a pretty closed-minded thing to say. I pretty much think we'd be better off with as few guns as possible, but I'm not positive I wouldn't change my mind after the situation he was in.

Edit: I wrote that before you completely edited your reply.

Yeah, I'm being unfair, that's just my knee-jerk reaction whenever someone suggests what people need is more weaponry. In America, how often does some hero step in to stop a spree killer? They rarely do, if ever.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 16, 2016 at 9:32 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(February 16, 2016 at 9:28 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I mean... I might not agree with him either, but until you're on stage one night when terrorists start killing anyone they can find, I think "idiot" is a pretty closed-minded thing to say. I pretty much think we'd be better off with as few guns as possible, but I'm not positive I wouldn't change my mind after the situation he was in.

Edit: I wrote that before you completely edited your reply.

Yeah, I'm being unfair, that's just my knee-jerk reaction whenever someone suggests what people need is more weaponry. In America, how often does some hero step in to stop a spree killer? They rarely do, if ever.

You won't find much disagreement with that here.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
He's forgetting that most Europeans don't want to live in a gun-ridden hell hole.

And oh look, another gun thread from a religious minded gun nut. If a dog or small child was this fixated on a single object it would be taken off to a psychologist.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 16, 2016 at 9:22 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Idiot.

The proof of that is that he's going to vote Donald Trump.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-41121-po...pid1199389
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
The problem is that one would like to think that the victims of gun violence and terrorism somehow have a sensible and important opinion on the matter, because it at first makes intuitive sense and it is a nice narrative that they now have earned a right to say something about it and be heard. But that's not how it works. Traumatic experiences don't necessarily make your thoughts more coherent and insightful.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 17, 2016 at 4:46 am)Alex K Wrote: The problem is that one would like to think that the victims of gun violence and terrorism somehow have a sensible and important opinion on the matter, because it at first makes intuitive sense and it is a nice narrative that they now have earned a right to say something about it and be heard. But that's not how it works. Traumatic experiences don't necessarily make your thoughts more coherent and insightful.

He was also a long term advocate for guns. Presumably this is the anger stage of the his grief where he is looking to blame it on something.

Things have never gone well when policy has been dictated by those who are grieving.
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RE: Eagles of Death Metal leader sounds off on gun control
(February 17, 2016 at 4:46 am)Alex K Wrote: The problem is that one would like to think that the victims of gun violence and terrorism somehow have a sensible and important opinion on the matter, because it at first makes intuitive sense and it is a nice narrative that they now have earned a right to say something about it and be heard. But that's not how it works. Traumatic experiences don't necessarily make your thoughts more coherent and insightful.

I totally agree with you. I don't think he's got anything more or less insightful to say about guns now that he's gone through his experience.

(February 17, 2016 at 5:04 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(February 17, 2016 at 4:46 am)Alex K Wrote: The problem is that one would like to think that the victims of gun violence and terrorism somehow have a sensible and important opinion on the matter, because it at first makes intuitive sense and it is a nice narrative that they now have earned a right to say something about it and be heard. But that's not how it works. Traumatic experiences don't necessarily make your thoughts more coherent and insightful.

He was also a long term advocate for guns. Presumably this is the anger stage of the his grief where he is looking to blame it on something.

Things have never gone well when policy has been dictated by those who are grieving.

I'll point you once again to my signature Big Grin

I didn't realize the guy was previously a gun nut. The idiot meter is pointing closer to "yes" right now.
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