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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 9:38 am
(March 14, 2016 at 8:45 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: The problem is, Rob, he's not applying scepticism to science, he's applyong denialism. It can clearly seen from this thread that like YECs and other biblical literalists, ajw will ignore any evidence or phenomenon which contradicts his personal interpretation of the biblical mythology.
Pretty much. His disdain for other religions, near fanatical believe in prophecies and denial of fact, puts him smack in the middle of the Drippy league.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 9:50 am
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(March 8, 2016 at 7:47 pm)AJW333 Wrote: UNSW. Inside the top 50 in the world. Check it out.
Tell us the name, initials not useful.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 10:00 am
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(March 14, 2016 at 8:45 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: (March 14, 2016 at 7:53 am)robvalue Wrote: You're applying a high level of scepticism to science, which is good, even if I don't agree with your objections.
The problem is, Rob, he's not applying scepticism to science, he's applyong denialism. It can clearly seen from this thread that like YECs and other biblical literalists, ajw will ignore any evidence or phenomenon which contradicts his personal interpretation of the biblical mythology.
That is true. It's what I would call scepticism level infinity, where literally no evidence will ever suffice.
As opposed to scepticism level zero, which people apply to their religion.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 10:01 am
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University of New South Wales, n'est-ce pas? "Scientia Manu et Mente" - "Knowledge by Hand and Mind". Placed in lthe Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2015-2016 as 82nd in the world and 5th in Australia. Quite what that says about Australia I won't speculate.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 10:08 am
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Here's the thing that's really stupid about most religions:
Look at the size of the universe. Look at us. Consider how long we'll be here, relative to the age of the universe. Consider how far we could possibly travel, even with the most amazing technology, through the universe. Consider how much of it is deadly to us.
It was all made for us?
You can forgive ancient man for being incredibly ignorant, and also (clearly) thinking "earth" and "the universe" were the same thing. The sky was just a backdrop, and everything on this planet sort-of worked for us. Now we know differently, I am astonished anyone could still think this was all designed for us. Talk about low standards.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 5:46 pm
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(March 14, 2016 at 7:42 am)abaris Wrote: (March 14, 2016 at 6:48 am)AJW333 Wrote: https://thescrolleaters.wordpress.com/20...k-job-1-5/
So, a blog, not providing any links to any kind of scientific finds. Good job, but that's not what I meant with "serious".
What kind of "scientific finds" are we talking about? I thought the article was quite good.
(March 14, 2016 at 7:53 am)robvalue Wrote: You're applying a high level of scepticism to science, which is good, even if I don't agree with your objections.
Do you think you're applying the same level of scepticism when you say a book is from God because it says it's from God?
I believe I take a rational view, not because "the book says so," but because it is so unlikely that an ancient writer would be so confident (and accurate) as to which constellations were linked or not linked.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 7:17 pm
Words such as "unlikely" are the hallmark of an argument from ignorance.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 7:23 pm
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(March 14, 2016 at 5:46 pm)AJW333 Wrote: I believe I take a rational view, not because "the book says so," but because it is so unlikely that an ancient writer would be so confident (and accurate) as to which constellations were linked or not linked.
I'm an atheist because literally nothing seems less likely than the notion that physical reality is a creation made by an extradimensional entity with infinite attributes who is perfect in every way.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 7:38 pm
(March 14, 2016 at 5:46 pm)AJW333 Wrote: What kind of "scientific finds" are we talking about? I thought the article was quite good.
You know, something as exotic as factual evidence. Something that's not well written but based on archeology, history, whatever. I can compose a well written essay about the last shit I took and it would be on the same scientific level.
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RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 7:49 pm
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(March 14, 2016 at 6:48 am)AJW333 Wrote: (March 13, 2016 at 10:00 pm)Chas Wrote: That's a real stretch. It doesn't say that except in your bizarre interpretation. It says that the stars of the Pleiades were bound. If not by a force of gravity (or some other force) , then what is it talking about?
Because it's not fucking talking about stars - it's about Greek myth.
The Pleiades were the seven daughters of the titan Atlas and the sea-nymph Pleione.
Orion the hunter chased them, but could not bind them.
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