Posts: 3290
Threads: 118
Joined: January 19, 2015
Reputation:
30
Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 8:59 pm
Meg Whitman, the CEO of Hewlett-Packard who had an official role with Gov. Chris Christie's now-suspended presidential campaign, called his endorsement of Trump, "an astonishing display of political opportunism."
This amazing quote from a high level official in Christie's campaign shows just how fucked up the Republican party is. They are at the point of civil war. This is terrific news because it signals the breakup of the lock the Religious Reich has had on the party. I'm hopeful the Republicans will morph to a reasonable alternative to the Democratic party. It sucks to only have one choice.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Posts: 13122
Threads: 130
Joined: October 18, 2014
Reputation:
55
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:03 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 8:59 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Meg Whitman, the CEO of Hewlett-Packard who had an official role with Gov. Chris Christie's now-suspended presidential campaign, called his endorsement of Trump, "an astonishing display of political opportunism."
Chris Christie's an exemplary corruptionist by all accounts. I'm pretty sure, she's got a point, but what does that say about her, other than the old saying of "non olet"? As long as Christie was paying the bills, she kept quiet.
Posts: 5436
Threads: 138
Joined: September 6, 2012
Reputation:
58
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2016 at 9:17 pm by CapnAwesome.)
Both parties are kind of falling apart. 35%+ of the democratic vote is going to a lifelong independent. I honestly can't believe the Trump situation though. It's like some strange anti-reality. I mean what the fuck? What the fuck? Average of the last national polls has Clinton only up by 2.5% against Trump too. Are we only 2.5% away from a president Trump????
Posts: 14932
Threads: 684
Joined: August 25, 2008
Reputation:
143
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:32 pm
(This post was last modified: February 28, 2016 at 9:33 pm by Tiberius.)
(February 28, 2016 at 9:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Both parties are kind of falling apart. 35%+ of the democratic vote is going to a lifelong independent.
That's a bit of a misleading statement. Whilst Sanders was a lifelong independent until he ran for the Democratic nomination, he supported the Democrats whilst in office. He even won the Democratic primary for the US Senate seat in Vermont, before declining the nomination to run as an independent (which the Democratic party accepted and then endorsed Sanders so that no Democratic nominee would be on the ballot).
That, and if Clinton wins the nomination, I fully expect Sanders to endorse her, whereas I do not expect Cruz and Rubio to so easily endorse Trump.
Posts: 6843
Threads: 0
Joined: February 22, 2014
Reputation:
15
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 9:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Both parties are kind of falling apart. 35%+ of the democratic vote is going to a lifelong independent. I honestly can't believe the Trump situation though. It's like some strange anti-reality. I mean what the fuck? What the fuck? Average of the last national polls has Clinton only up by 2.5% against Trump too. Are we only 2.5% away from a president Trump????
Trump is the racist America needs now.
Posts: 30974
Threads: 204
Joined: July 19, 2011
Reputation:
141
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm
Troll moar.
Posts: 3290
Threads: 118
Joined: January 19, 2015
Reputation:
30
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 9:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Both parties are kind of falling apart. 35%+ of the democratic vote is going to a lifelong independent. I honestly can't believe the Trump situation though. It's like some strange anti-reality. I mean what the fuck? What the fuck? Average of the last national polls has Clinton only up by 2.5% against Trump too. Are we only 2.5% away from a president Trump????
No. Trump has something like 25% support of Hispanics. That is certainly not likely to improve. I don't know what his rating is with blacks but it's probably even worse. You can't win the general election like that. Trump is not elected for President. No way.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Posts: 14932
Threads: 684
Joined: August 25, 2008
Reputation:
143
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:45 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: No. Trump has something like 25% support of Hispanics. That is certainly not likely to improve. I don't know what his rating is with blacks but it's probably even worse. You can't win the general election like that. Trump is not elected for President. No way.
Unfortunately, the majority in forty-six states are non-hispanic whites (according to Wikipedia), so yes, you can win the general election like that. The Hispanic and black vote might make it close, but it by no means undermines his chance of success.
Posts: 6843
Threads: 0
Joined: February 22, 2014
Reputation:
15
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 9:53 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (February 28, 2016 at 9:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Both parties are kind of falling apart. 35%+ of the democratic vote is going to a lifelong independent. I honestly can't believe the Trump situation though. It's like some strange anti-reality. I mean what the fuck? What the fuck? Average of the last national polls has Clinton only up by 2.5% against Trump too. Are we only 2.5% away from a president Trump????
No. Trump has something like 25% support of Hispanics. That is certainly not likely to improve. I don't know what his rating is with blacks but it's probably even worse. You can't win the general election like that. Trump is not elected for President. No way.
There aren't that many blacks in the Blue States so their votes don't really matter. There are more Hispanics in some of the Blue States but a heavy Repub turnout can easily counter them. Hillary might not be able to turn out the Dem voters.
Posts: 3290
Threads: 118
Joined: January 19, 2015
Reputation:
30
RE: Republican Party Falling Apart?
February 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm
(February 28, 2016 at 9:45 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (February 28, 2016 at 9:42 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: No. Trump has something like 25% support of Hispanics. That is certainly not likely to improve. I don't know what his rating is with blacks but it's probably even worse. You can't win the general election like that. Trump is not elected for President. No way.
Unfortunately, the majority in forty-six states are non-hispanic whites (according to Wikipedia), so yes, you can win the general election like that. The Hispanic and black vote might make it close, but it by no means undermines his chance of success.
It doesn't matter what the majority is. Nobody is winning 100% of the majority. Estimites are that a candidate needs 47% of the Latino vote to win. If you're Trump, you have to make up that huge deficit somewhere. Where? Blacks love the Clintons. White males will probably favor Trump but females will favor Hillary by at least the same margin. Where do the Trump voters come from that put him over the top?
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
|