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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm
Are you freely willing it either way?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:26 pm
@ Thomas
Is the free will you believe in compatible with determinism? If yes then the free will you believe in is a trivial truth, if no then the free will you believe in is a significant falsehood.
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:27 pm
I thought Thomas believed in cell masters and mind slaves. I keep getting confused.
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:29 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Are you freely willing it either way?
I chose to answer this, you may think you have no power to choose and therefore no ability over anything you do.
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:33 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2016 at 4:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 16, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: I chose to answer this,
-so we can all see...but that's not what I asked, is it?
Quote:you may think you have no power to choose and therefore no ability over anything you do.
Why would I think that?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:34 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Are you freely willing it either way?
I chose to answer this, you may think you have no power to choose and therefore no ability over anything you do.
 This is a non-answer.
Maybe god made you believe you chose to answer, but failed to do so, thus proving your will to answer was thwarted.
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 4:46 pm
Everything he says is a non-answer and usually with a healthy serving of word salad.
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 5:59 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Thomas Kelly252525 Wrote: (June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Are you freely willing it either way?
I chose to answer this, you may think you have no power to choose and therefore no ability over anything you do.
We're not disputing your choices or your will. We're disputing that they're free.
Again, do you believe your will is compatible with determinism yes or no?
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 6:49 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Losty Wrote: Everything he says is a non-answer and usually with a healthy serving of word salad.
I think he thinks he's sounding cryptic and mysterious. Hey, if you can't make an actual point, at least you can look cool pretending you have a hidden one, right?
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RE: Free will
June 16, 2016 at 6:50 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 6:49 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (June 16, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Losty Wrote: Everything he says is a non-answer and usually with a healthy serving of word salad.
I think he thinks he's sounding cryptic and mysterious. Hey, if you can't make an actual point, at least you can look cool pretending you have a hidden one, right? 
Yes looking so cool
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