Islam in Europe: perception and reality

[abaris]

oh yeah, i'm projecting, cuz they all reading from the same terrorist-manual book.

So why not answer the question? Which freedoms have you been robbed of in Europe?

[Marsellus Wallace]

oh yeah, i'm projecting, cuz they all reading from the same terrorist-manual book.

So why not answer the question? Which freedoms have you been robbed of in Europe?

hmmm, you mean freedoms in europe that are not in my country, right ?

• you don't have freedom of speech, you can get arrested and imprisoned for saying you're an atheist.
  
• I was forced to pray when I was young, 5 times a day , I go clean myself , it's called " wedo' ", and then go to pray one of the daily prayers, and forced to go to the mosque on friday and listen to the stupid 1 hour speech from the "sheikh", to tell us how to live our lives.
  
•  Most of the dicks in europe are not mutilated.
  
• "Azan" noise(5 times a day, especially on friday :S) coming from the loudspeakers in mosques sometimes it can wake you up if there is a mosque near(which there is in my case, there's so many of them), if you're on the phone talking to someone you gotta wait till the motherfucker finishes the azan which takes about 4 minutes.
  
• you can't fuck, you just watch porn and masturbate forever.  i'm almost 24 and still a virgin, you gotta marry to fuck in a muslim world(Even if I got a job, I won't be able financially marry until the age of 30). and no whore houses ofc, that's a big "haram".
  
• I can't leave this country and go to any western country no more, cuz muslims ruined that for me, we're like a blacklisted group of people, even if I say i'm an atheist(which is pretty dangerous), I'm a muslim by force, cuz it's written in my ID, you don't even get to choose.
  
• if i'm a girl, chances are that i'm gonna get most important part of my vagina cut off, they do this based on so many degradations of the woman's identity in the quran, a woman is almost a sin in that filthy book, and also probably won't even go to school, and if I did, chances are i'm not going to college and just gonna get married to some guy my family recommended.
  
• If i'm a girl and got rapped, it's my fault, my family will look down on me, and I probably won't get married.
  
• That last revolution we had, it's main reason of failure is the cunts "the muslim brothers", here is another thing you can't have in a muslim world, a fucking first world country.
  
• lots books and movies get banned because of their ideas that contradict with islam. Even some scenes get cut off in movies.....
  
• YOU CAN'T BUY A DILDO
  

Visiting an arab country isn't gonna show you this, but that religion makes an awful society, which i'm really really doing everything I can to run away from.

[abaris]

I asked about Europe. This thread is about Europe and not the Middle East. Can't take you seriously if you think that's the European situation.

[Thumpalumpacus]

YOU CAN'T BUY A DILDO

It's clear you can still be a dildo, though.

[Marsellus Wallace]

I asked about Europe. This thread is about Europe and not the Middle East. Can't take you seriously if you think that's the European situation.

you asked the question twice, in two different ways. you worded it badly.

plus, what's the point ? are they supposed to wait until they turn europe to a middle east ?

[Marsellus Wallace]

YOU CAN'T BUY A DILDO

It's clear you can still be a dildo, though.

that's really why I don't discuss serious shit in this forum, I speak my mind and say the truth and I get hated for it.

fuck it, let's go mainstream herd mentality, islam is nice, not all muslims are bad, muslim immigrants are gonna make europe a great place, muslim terrorists are not even muslims. Bin Ladin, ISIS, boko-haram and taliban are all CIA made. muslims are sweet ppl, I have a muslim friend and he's nice.

[Heat]

It's clear you can still be a dildo, though.

that's really why I don't discuss serious shit in this forum, I speak my mind and say the truth and I get hated for it.

fuck it, let's go mainstream herd mentality, islam is nice, not all muslims are bad, muslim immigrants are gonna make europe a great place, muslim terrorists are not even muslims. Bin Ladin, ISIS, boko-haram and taliban are all CIA made. muslims are sweet ppl, I have a muslim friend and he's nice.

You mention what the rules are in your country as a result of the religion but you're missing the point.

We're not talking about accepting sharia law in this country when we say we shouldn't shoo people from entering away because they are Muslim. Accepting Muslims does not entail accepting Islam. There's a fundamental misunderstanding among a large portion of society now adays in terms of people who don't want to ban Muslims from entering this country.

Just because I want to accept Muslims in to this country does not mean I accept Islam, or think it's a good religion whatsoever. It means that I don't want to wage war on people when we should be waging war on the idea. Islam is a fucking horrible religion, consisting of terrible stone-age ideas. But I have enough perspective to know that the people who believe in it are not all horrible, and many do not embrace the stone-age ideas within it. Just like Christianity there are a large majority of Muslims that believe in the religion simply out of tradition. If not, many are just misinformed. This generalization that all Muslims believe the exact same thing, and that 'thing' is one literal interpretation of a terrible book is just utterly ridiculous, and incredibly scary considering how many people are behind this movement to banish Muslims. Once you start banishing people for a religion, you stop identifying them as people, and start identifying them as belonging to a religion. That is a terrible, disgusting outlook to have. 

So call me fucking PC you idiots because I couldn't give a shit. I'm not willing to sacrifice my intellectual honesty for the sake of pleasing the facade you've developed in to two words that ultimately are meaningless. When did sticking up for what is right become PC? When did trying to do the right thing become a bad thing? How fucking insane are you? I WILL stick up for what is right. It is NOT right to generalize an entire peoples and identify them by their fucking religion because of the widespread virus of fear currently enveloping this country. So you can go fuck yourself if you want to single out a certain people and eradicate them from interacting with you. You can go fuck yourself if you think that banning people from entering is attempting to solve any issue, because that's the easy way out. Once you generalize 1.3 billion people you've sincerely lost touch with reality. And most of all, a big go fuck yourself to the people who reached their conclusion of banning muslims quickly. What a fucking disgrace to make a judgement about 1.3 BILLION PEOPLE in the span of even weeks. How dare you think that the answer to the question is simple in any way shape or form. 

I'm sorry for being so harsh but i'm so fucking tired of people treating others as shit just because they are a part of a religion you despise. I'm so fucking sick of people not looking at others as human beings but as different species simply because their beliefs are different from theirs. No amount of polling, NO AMOUNT, could convince me to make a judgement about 1.3 billion peoples individual motives, dreams, and personal beliefs, so one big last and final fuck you for thinking that you can.

(this is not directed at you specifically, but more or less society in general)

[ReptilianPeon]

that's really why I don't discuss serious shit in this forum, I speak my mind and say the truth and I get hated for it.

fuck it, let's go mainstream herd mentality, islam is nice, not all muslims are bad, muslim immigrants are gonna make europe a great place, muslim terrorists are not even muslims. Bin Ladin, ISIS, boko-haram and taliban are all CIA made. muslims are sweet ppl, I have a muslim friend and he's nice.

Isn't mainstream herd mentality to do the opposite of what you're saying? Like Donald Trump rallies. But Donald is just giving people morsel of populism; he wouldn't really do the things he says...

The United States government suckles on the penis of the biggest state sponsor of terrorism: Saudi. Apparently oil is more important than peoples' safety. Saudi supports the terrorists and then people ask for their freedoms to be taken away. It's genius. After the Murdoch family, the biggest shareholder at Fox is Prince Alwaleed of Saudi.

So by supporting Abu Bakr -Baghdadi's butt buddies in Saudi the United States is supporting terrorism. Saudi beheads loads of people yet people only seem to be outraged when al-Saud's henchmen in Iraq and Syria do it. Saudi funds Fascists and they have Mamluks all over the world doing their bidding.

[Thumpalumpacus]

It's clear you can still be a dildo, though.

that's really why I don't discuss serious shit in this forum, I speak my mind and say the truth and I get hated for it.

I don't hate you. I do think you're a dumbass, though. Your inability to mount a cogent defense of your overgeneralizations, instead preferring to impute attitudes to others whom you don't know, certainly does not engender my respect.

If you want respect, earn it. If you don't care for earning it, quit whining about not having it.

fuck it, let's go mainstream herd mentality, islam is nice, not all muslims are bad, muslim immigrants are gonna make europe a great place, muslim terrorists are not even muslims. Bin Ladin, ISIS, boko-haram and taliban are all CIA made. muslims are sweet ppl, I have a muslim friend and he's nice.

Now you look like a dishonest idiot.

[abaris]

you asked the question twice, in two different ways. you worded it badly.

Because I didn't know you're from the Middle East. I just assumed, since you posted in a thread about Europe, you are European and commenting on the European situation.