Islam in Europe: perception and reality

[Heat]

Drich, the same person who previously condoned slavery, expressing how incredibly knowledgeable he is.

[Drich]

Yes, of course I know they don't share the same Imams. At first I couldn't figure out why you'd think I didn't, but I see that the way I worded my first sentence could lend itself to that reading. I should have written, ". . . such as the role of Imams in Sunni Islam as contrasted with the role Imams play among the Shia." I trust that would have been clearer.

yes thank you.

My point of contention here is not that Sunni Muslims are saints or that a majority of them aren't in favor of Jihad (given the actual meaning of the word, as opposed to how it's thrown around in the media, it would be rather surprising if they didn't favor Jihad). It's that Sunnis and their Imams are not a monolithic group with a hive mentality. There is room within Sunni Islam for disagreement among clerics based on the schools of interpretation within Sunni circles, and therefore a certain degree of freedom among the Sunni faithful whether to endorse this or that position taken by this or that Imam and not all Sunni clerics support the efforts of ISIS, as evidenced by the Sunni clerics ISIS has executed for not supporting their brand of Jihad. Contrast that with Shia Imams whose authority is more strictly normative within their circles.

Like with priests their is a hierarchy with Imams in both the sunni and sheia sects. With the Sunni there are a hand full who have floated to the top and make the big calls for the whole religion. things like say jihad for instance. Once the call has been made by the guys on this list to go against it is akin to hersey. So then if an 'underling' imam speaks out against the Jihad the 'pope-ish' Imams declared is the will of allah then yes thier lives are forfeit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam

Again that is why I said you'll never hear a sunni (even here in the US) condemn the 9-11 attacks or what ISIS is doing and truly mean it. (they will say whatever to appease/avoid persecution) That's because their 'popes' have fully endorsed the Jihad being waged, and they know that for those who have been called it is their religious duty to Go Plus they know that at any moment they too could also be 'called' into Jihad as well.

[Drich]

Drich, the same person who previously condoned slavery, expressing how incredibly knowledgeable he is.

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

[Drich]

or did you not fully understand the argument "heat?'

[Heat]

Drich, the same person who previously condoned slavery, expressing how incredibly knowledgeable he is.

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

[Thumpalumpacus]

<singing softly> I wish I were like you / easily amused ...

What you find funny says a lot more about you than you might realize.  

What I find funny Roflol funny is the opposition making a bold arrogant statement based on a empty unchecked assumption. When you see a Roflol emoji it's because one of you have made a critically false statement of had a serious laps in logical judgement.

Why would that be funny? because again these errors are made in such a way as to suggest that the position taken in error is indeed the superior one, arrogantly so.

you can't tell me if a Christian was making all kinds of demonstratively false claim concerning science and logic this would not be funny to you all.

The unintentionally funny thing about your post here is that you fail to recognize your own fallacies with startling regularity.

[abaris]

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

And Drich condoning it, since the OT is condoning it too. That's the difference between you and many of us. We are well aware of the problem, but we're not OK with it existing.

[Heat]

Drich the Guy who points out your life currently is being provided by slaves, and that you by living in society also condone slavery, you just like to call it by a different name.

And Drich condoning it, since the OT is condoning it too. That's the difference between you and many of us. We are well aware of the problem, but we're not OK with it existing.

Yet he would still suggest that either we leave society and everything material completely and go live in butt-fuck antartica or else we are willingly condoning slavery. This was all explained to him on the actual huge thread where we discussed it on, but he continuously denied these points, and insisted his bullshit was correct. It's the racist mentality, racists tend to go around thinking "Well everyone else is probably a little bit racist too, right?".

[Dayron]

Muslim refugees should be deported back to their countries, whereas Muslim citizens should be at least deprived of citizenship.
Islam is an ideology completely opposite to European standards and ethics. Tolerance for Muslims who truly believe in Quran (which states e.g. that Allah allows Muslims to rape infidel women with impunity and deprive them of their dignity) is just like tolerating Nazis who are devoted to Mein Kampf and believe that non-Aryans should disappear. Nazis during WW2 were killing whoever they wanted in the name of Aryan supremacy. Today Muslims are taking over Europe and violate our Western law, but authorities try to act as if nothing happened and do nothing, of course in the name of fighting off prejudice or somehow racism. Muslim population in Europe has created numerous ghettos, not as a result of discrimination, but due to severe cultural differences. There is no assimilation, thus multiculturalism doesn't work, in terms of Muslims. However, Asians or simple Africans have no problem with integrating with others. 

A firm policy should be imposed on dangerous Muslim minorities. Cologne, Brussels, Paris, London, Boston, Sydney, San Bernardino, Madrid, Copenhagen.
How much blood yet needs to be shed for liberals to acknowledge that Islam is a threat to Western civilization?

[Thumpalumpacus]

So what are your standards for determining who is a True Muslim®?

Pinprick attacks do not a threat amount to. Hundreds of people die yearly in plane crashes, yet do you campaign against aircraft?