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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:09 am
(May 13, 2016 at 12:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (May 13, 2016 at 10:11 am)Drich Wrote: What you habitually fail to understand is I can offer you nothing outside of the starting line to your journey of 'proofing' You haven't given me any reason to believe that you can offer this.
Quote:Do you want to stand before God and spit in his eye? I did, and I was so foolish as to 'challenge' God to give me that chance.
No.
Quote:Do you think 'Hell' Meh, how can a 'spirit burn' if I left all my nerve endings in my casket? I did.
No.
Quote:Ever wonder what an angel is like? Ever wonder how someone could be mystified by one?
....no
Quote:Ever was to know God personally? Ever want to ask Him Questions? Ever wanted Real answers? Ever want anything that you heard about in the bible that God offered to someone else?
No.
Quote:I did... And I don't want for anything, anymore. because I got everything I've ever asked for and more. I honestly stopped asking for that kind of stuff.
Still pretending you aren't trying to sell something, lol?
Quote:All of that said I do not have the ability to share or give you all any of it. All I can do it point you in the same direction offer to walk beside you down the same path I did.
-and in case you missed it...what I;m suggesting..is that you are -completely- inept when it comes to pointing people in the right direction....so if I'm not headed in the right direction...it might have something to do with the direction you're pointing in......
Quote:For me I hate sales men. I want to know facts, and I dont want to wade promises a sales man makes that he can not keep. If there are promises being made I want to get them from the source.
Precisely the problem. You just pulled an infomercial product testimonial on me up there....but I still haven't heard from or seen any gods......
Quote:That is why I am providing facts, and offering to point you to the source.
 The day you manage to turn your beliefs into facts is the day I remind you that I'm still not going to be a christian.
The place you're pointing to doesn't seem to have any gods in it. That's the entire problem Drich. Maybe you should check again...maybe you're just mis-remembering where you left them or found them? No???
They why answer the questions?
When I truly have no interest in a survey or a questionnaire I don't take the time to answer them. Yet you did. Why then say no? Do you want proof of God? If no then why discuss anything theological at all ever?
You put a lot of time in dispelling theist arguments. That is not the actions of a disinterested third party. those are the actions of someone desperately looking to be 'proved' wrong.
Sorry sport me thinks thou doeth protest too much.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:11 am
(May 13, 2016 at 12:29 pm)robvalue Wrote: I don't think people like Drich can grasp that it's possible to simply not be interested in joining Christianity, regardless of its truth. Or indeed, to find it morally repulsive.
No I get it... why else do you think I don't take the time to argue with you?
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:11 am
In other news, you guys must believe god cums. If god didn't came, how in the hell Mary got pregnant with Jesus anyway.... hehe 
Ill grab my coat.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:16 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2016 at 9:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 16, 2016 at 9:09 am)Drich Wrote: No???
They why answer the questions? To help you form a set of coherent statements regarding your beliefs...on a board that caters to discussion of peoples beliefs?
Quote:When I truly have no interest in a survey or a questionnaire I don't take the time to answer them. Yet you did. Why then say no? Do you want proof of God? If no then why discuss anything theological at all ever?
See above.
Quote:You put a lot of time in dispelling theist arguments. That is not the actions of a disinterested third party. those are the actions of someone desperately looking to be 'proved' wrong.
Sorry sport me thinks thou doeth protest too much.
B-mine.
I'm interested in competently formed arguments. More than that, I'm interested in the various ways that human beings (like yourself..ostensibly......) have come up with to conceptualize the world around them and their place in it. IOW, shit that's -vastly- more important and relevant than any fairy you might believe in, on it's own. I've been disappointed repeatedly, in both regards, in your threads. If you're only now realizing what I have told you countless times about myself....I can;t help but think that this is related to your failures in those other areas.
One might imagine that an evangelist would welcome any and all help with arriving at a coherent statement of beliefs, a compelling argument for their gods. I suppose though, that one would have to assume that said evangelist was a rational actor making intelligent decisions....but perhaps those two things can't coexist with god-belief or evangelism. Or maybe they just don't exist in you, in which case I'll still be waiting here, for that person...just like I was before you arrived.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:18 am
(May 16, 2016 at 9:11 am)Drich Wrote: No I get it... why else do you think I don't take the time to argue with you?
To be fair, you never argued with anybody. Your post history is a monologue of you reassuring yourself. Many of us gave rebuttals, yes, only to receive more of the same monologue. It's all good, but forgive me for not paying much attention.
I mean, if anything the mighty god you believe in should help you with your own lack of faith.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 9:44 am
(May 16, 2016 at 9:03 am)Drich Wrote: Ah, I wrongly assumed all people who claim they want proof of God, do and are willing to search for it.
You don't mind God comming to you, you are not willing to go to God.
Does that sum things up?
How do you search for something that doesn't exist?
How do you search for an idea?
How do you search for dragons? and faeries? and wizards?
How do you search for a god? Assume such a thing exists and then voilá, you're convinced it does. perfect reasoning, huh?
I'm sure psychology is beyond your pay grade, but I'd invest in learning some about it.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 10:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2016 at 10:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It doesn't matter how much you ramble on about it. People have tried your method...and it didn't work. Do you expect anyone to take the god-advice of a charlatan seriously?
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RE: Most personally convincing reasons you don't believe.
May 16, 2016 at 10:42 am
(May 16, 2016 at 9:09 am)Drich Wrote: You put a lot of time in dispelling theist arguments. That is not the actions of a disinterested third party. those are the actions of someone desperately looking to be 'proved' wrong.
Sorry sport me thinks thou doeth protest too much.
This is an atheist forum. We do not accept the reality of a god and do not discuss it amongst ourselves. However, when the theists show up on this atheist forum (note atheist forum) We are then put in a position of ignoring the theists or engaging in discussion.
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