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Someone stole the body!
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 (May 23, 2016 at 10:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: If they had no miracles they would be accepted without question. Then how do you explain that the scripture depicting Jesus as non-miraculous and quite human were excluded from the final edit of the bible? There is the Apocrypha, after all.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (May 23, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everyone needs to forget the recanting and understand these people died for their belief in who Jesus was, the Messiah. That means they believed in the virgin birth, his life lived sinless on earth, his death and resurrection and that He is the Son of God. So with this said, yes they believed in his resurrection. Well, of course, mass delusion  (May 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(May 23, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everyone needs to forget the recanting and understand these people died for their belief in who Jesus was I would die for my country, that's real, I would die for my family, they're real, I would die for my church members, they're real, I would die for my Savior and I know for certain He's real. I believe in each one of these I mentioned. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 24, 2016 at 12:45 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 23, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Let me stop you right there. Better than Peter then. (May 24, 2016 at 12:37 am)Irrational Wrote:(May 23, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everyone needs to forget the recanting and understand these people died for their belief in who Jesus was, the Messiah. That means they believed in the virgin birth, his life lived sinless on earth, his death and resurrection and that He is the Son of God. So with this said, yes they believed in his resurrection. Mass delusion doesn't work that way. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 24, 2016 at 12:45 am)Godschild Wrote: I would die for my country, that's real, I would die for my family, they're real, I would die for my church members, they're real, I would die for my Savior and I know for certain He's real. I believe in each one of these I mentioned. You only proved my point.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (May 24, 2016 at 12:46 am)Irrational Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 12:45 am)Godschild Wrote: I would die for my country, that's real, I would die for my family, they're real, I would die for my church members, they're real, I would die for my Savior and I know for certain He's real. I believe in each one of these I mentioned. Peter did what I said I would do, I only hope to be 1/2 the man Peter was. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 24, 2016 at 12:48 am)Maelstrom Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 12:45 am)Godschild Wrote: I would die for my country, that's real, I would die for my family, they're real, I would die for my church members, they're real, I would die for my Savior and I know for certain He's real. I believe in each one of these I mentioned. No I proved my point. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (May 24, 2016 at 12:47 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 24, 2016 at 12:37 am)Irrational Wrote: Well, of course, mass delusion Why not? I've seen it happen before me. Ever lived in a remote village full of superstitious people? All it takes in this case is for one or two villagers to be excited about having witnessed some divine revelation, and everyone starts believing that they did. |
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