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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 12:21 am
(June 15, 2016 at 10:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 9:12 pm)madog Wrote: I did better than that I copy and pasted it above .... but you was not satisfied with the actual quotes but had to interpret it with your acrobatic Christian mind
All you want and can be is a nuisance, and I'm through with this conversation.
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You have kept this drivel going because you made a mistake in the first part of the conversation and rather than admit it kept this nonsense going .... I actually put a serious question to you which you have ignored .... you are an arrogant piece of shit ..... And you are lucky that the bible is a fairy tale because your self adoration would bar your entrance to any afterlife
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 10:31 am
(June 15, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Was Jesus crucified prior to the Passover meal or after:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra..._meal.html
After, He had the meal with His disciples.
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Well then, why did John say he was crucified before the meal? And John is usually the go to guy for all the fundies.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 1:37 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 10:31 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: After, He had the meal with His disciples.
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Well then, why did John say he was crucified before the meal? And John is usually the go to guy for all the fundies.
The same way that he was born before 4 BC (Matt) and after 6 AD (Luke)
The same way his family came from Jerusalem, fled to Egypt and settled in Nazareth (Matthew) and yet also his family was from Nazareth came to Jerusalem and then returned to Nazareth (Luke).
The same way Jesus began his ministry before the baptism (John) and after (Synoptics)
The same way he kicked off his ministry with the Temple Tantrum (John) and ended it with that event (Synoptics)
The same way he had many different last words on the cross.
The same way he ascended into Heaven on the same day of his resurrection (Luke) and 40 days later (Acts)
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Finally, I got to do an "in character" post!
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: After, He had the meal with His disciples.
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The Gospel of John has Jesus being crucified prior to the Passover meal but Mark says that he was crucified after the Passover meal. Which was it? Before or after?
I told you after. John never mentions the Passover meal and what requires him to, nothing. John 19:31 Since it was the day of Preparation, and so the bodies would not remain on the cross for the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day).... here John tells us that Jesus was crucified on Friday the day after Passover and the day before the Sabbath.
John 19: 42 So because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. Again John shows us that Jesus was crucified on Friday the day after the Passover.
Now what does all this mean, it means that Jesus being a good Jewish person would not have passed up the Passover meal, if he had His disciples would have thought Him strange and questioned Him, they questioned Him in the past on several things and something this important to the Jews the disciples would have questioned if He decided to pass on the Passover meal.
You need to study the whole of the scriptures and the peoples of the scriptures before asserting from a unbelievers site, these people only want to cast negatives on Christianity, they will misuse the Bible in their ignorance.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Wrong, dummy. The Day of Preparation has a specific meaning which you might know if you ever pulled your head out of your ass.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 9:35 pm
(June 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The Gospel of John has Jesus being crucified prior to the Passover meal but Mark says that he was crucified after the Passover meal. Which was it? Before or after?
I told you after. John never mentions the Passover meal and what requires him to, nothing. John 19:31 Since it was the day of Preparation, and so the bodies would not remain on the cross for the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day).... here John tells us that Jesus was crucified on Friday the day after Passover and the day before the Sabbath.
John 19: 42 So because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. Again John shows us that Jesus was crucified on Friday the day after the Passover.
Now what does all this mean, it means that Jesus being a good Jewish person would not have passed up the Passover meal, if he had His disciples would have thought Him strange and questioned Him, they questioned Him in the past on several things and something this important to the Jews the disciples would have questioned if He decided to pass on the Passover meal.
You need to study the whole of the scriptures and the peoples of the scriptures before asserting from a unbelievers site, these people only want to cast negatives on Christianity, they will misuse the Bible in their ignorance.
GC
Quote:So here's the scene in John's gospel: on the day leading up to Passover, and Passover will commence at 6 o'clock with the evening meal, on the day leading up to that Passover meal is the day when all the lambs are slaughtered and everyone goes to the temple to get their lamb for the passover meal. In Jerusalem this would have meant thousands of lambs being slaughtered all at one time. And in John's gospel that's the day on which Jesus is crucified. So that quite literally the dramatic scene in John's gospel has Jesus hanging on the cross while the lambs are being slaughtered for passover. John's gospel is forcing us, dramatically at least, through the storytelling mode, to think of Jesus as a passover lamb. Jesus doesn't eat a passover meal, Jesus is the passover meal, at least within the Christian mind in the way that John tells the story.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/.../john.html
Quote:One of the nation's foremost religion scholars, L. Michael White has a special interest in the social world of early Christians and Jews in the Greco-Roman period. His forthcoming book, Images of Jesus: The Shape of the Gospels and the Making of Tradition, deals extensively with the development of the gospels in early Christian history. White's distinguished career includes academic appointments at Yale University, Oberlin College, and University of Texas at Austin, where he currently serves as professor of classics and director of the religious studies program. White has published six books and over thirty articles and book reviews on Christianity and has received numerous awards and honors, including two National Endowment for the Humanities research fellowships. He is active as a program leader in the Society of Biblical Literature and is currently series editor for the Archaeology and Biblical Studies Series. He has served on the editorial boards of The Journal of Early Christian Studies and Biblical Archaeologist. White has served on archaeological excavations in Israel and also has done extensive field research in Italy, Greece, and Turkey. He received his Ph.D. and master of divinity degrees from Yale University.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...html#white
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 9:38 pm
None of those scholars know anything compared to G-C and his baptist bullshit.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
June 16, 2016 at 11:09 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Was Jesus crucified prior to the Passover meal or after:
Split the difference; during. He wanted someone to put him up for the night.
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RE: Someone stole the body!
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