Even if you choose not to believe in god, you’re actually believing in god

[Thumpalumpacus]

There's a lot of circularity in that post.

[Blueyedlion]

[Kitan Etos]

There is this guy at work who basically made the same comment as the OP in this thread, though his statement was more coherent.

He stated, Even if you don't believe, you're still believing that you don't believe.

[Excited Penguin]

Since it's impossible to disbelieve, the reason i'm hoping to influence you, is to make you aware of it. Because once you are aware of it, there's a vast amount more the universe has to offer once you believe. Once you're open to the faith as well. I've experienced it myself.  Since you already believe, making it known to you is helpful then wouldn't it be?

God exists in you as you, so believing in god as yourself is simply a greater awareness of who you really are.

My statement is solid.


Because god implies being alive and conscious. so if you were aware that the universe thinks, and you are apart of that thinking, wouldn't that influence you as who you are as a person, if not the entire world?

So the Universe thinks now? What evidence is there of that, exactly?

Well, it does think at some level - us.

[Excited Penguin]

You sound like a very smart person, OP. I like you. Please tell me some more about God. Thanks.

I love how you're flying under the radar. You really are great at what you do and you must be having a ton of fun, right?

[robvalue]

There is this guy at work who basically made the same comment as the OP in this thread, though his statement was more coherent.

He stated, Even if you don't believe, you're still believing that you don't believe.

Yeah, but that's bollocks (what that guy said). You know you don't believe. To suggest otherwise is to say you aren't properly aware of your own beliefs. If you don't know what your beliefs are at any given time, you don't know anything so you may as well dispense with the word "know". Of course, your beliefs may change from day to day or even second to second. But you still know what they are, even if they are mental delusions and you aren't aware they are delusions.

(Of course, you may "not know what to believe", but this is a perfectly valid default position of neither accepting nor rejecting a proposition, as in weak atheism.)

You also get into a circular situation where you believe you don't believe; but since you don't know what your beliefs are, you only believe you believe you don't believe... etc.

Belief (as opposed to knowledge) is more suitable to a situation where you don't have direct access to the information.

You could technically argue that you only have beliefs about your beliefs, but that's taking things so far that you're entering solipsism and such. You certainly can't come back to reality to make any coherent claim following such a statement, if you've burnt all your fuel.

[Blueyedlion]

[robvalue]

Edit: forget it. Wasting my time.

[brewer]

You may have an astrocytoma turning portions of your brain.

[Homeless Nutter]