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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 9:17 am
(June 1, 2016 at 7:29 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (June 1, 2016 at 7:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't know about "sucks" but certainly it has been rare. Especially since the fuckers have been treating the Drumpfuck like a ratings bonanza since he declared. I guess they have finally decided that the jig is up. The anti-Trump attacks are likely being funded by the Repub establishment "anyone but Trump" wing. It's classic propaganda. I'll bet they come forth with a dildo candidate very soon that they will claim is God's gift to the universe.
Bullshit. Yes there are a few republicans who realize the monster they created. But primaries for both parties for the most part fight during the primaries then rally around the nominee.
Most of the anti Trump talk you see on social media is coming from sane people who see what a fucking nut he is. Don't mistake pacs as being individuals. I am not getting paid one dime for attacking Trump and I am a democrat. I attack him because he is a fucking nut.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 9:45 am
(June 2, 2016 at 9:17 am)Brian37 Wrote: Most of the anti Trump talk you see on social media is coming from sane people who see what a fucking nut he is. Don't mistake pacs as being individuals. I am not getting paid one dime for attacking Trump and I am a democrat. I attack him because he is a fucking nut.
I'm not even from this country, let alone a democrat. I attack him because I don't want to see anyone like this being in charge of nuclear weapons and the largest economy.
Apart from that, Trump follows the rightwing doctrine to a the letter. Attack, attack, attack, and nevermind I have no program apart from advertising bigotry and hatred. Everyone having two or more brain cells can easily see that what he calls his economic program can't work. Even less so in a globalized world.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am
(June 2, 2016 at 9:45 am)abaris Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 9:17 am)Brian37 Wrote: Most of the anti Trump talk you see on social media is coming from sane people who see what a fucking nut he is. Don't mistake pacs as being individuals. I am not getting paid one dime for attacking Trump and I am a democrat. I attack him because he is a fucking nut.
I'm not even from this country, let alone a democrat. I attack him because I don't want to see anyone like this being in charge of nuclear weapons and the largest economy.
Apart from that, Trump follows the rightwing doctrine to a the letter. Attack, attack, attack, and nevermind I have no program apart from advertising bigotry and hatred. Everyone having two or more brain cells can easily see that what he calls his economic program can't work. Even less so in a globalized world.
If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 10:07 am
(June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote:
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.
Depends on how many LeMays and McArthurs are serving generals right now.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 10:12 am
(June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 9:45 am)abaris Wrote: I'm not even from this country, let alone a democrat. I attack him because I don't want to see anyone like this being in charge of nuclear weapons and the largest economy.
Apart from that, Trump follows the rightwing doctrine to a the letter. Attack, attack, attack, and nevermind I have no program apart from advertising bigotry and hatred. Everyone having two or more brain cells can easily see that what he calls his economic program can't work. Even less so in a globalized world.
If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.
I've been paying attention to politics since I was 18, I am 49 now. I've seen your standard mudslinging from both parties and "flip flopping" in both parties. That politics is normal. What Trump is doing is very dangerous regardless of party. It is a very apt description to equate his hyper nationalism and scapegoating that lead to the rise of Hitler and is the same propaganda tactic Un uses to silence dissent. I am not saying that just because I hate him, I am saying that as a comparison in political history.
Now again, right now, our system of checks and balances is in tact, and no, he could not suddenly become a dictator himself. But if other politicians in either party from the local to state and congressional level start using that same tactic, that can and will lead to long term damage. He really should scare the shit out of anyone who values western political pluralism. He is setting a very bad tone that neither political party should adapt just to win.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 10:22 am
(June 2, 2016 at 10:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: It is a very apt description to equate his hyper nationalism and scapegoating that lead to the rise of Hitler and is the same propaganda tactic Un uses to silence dissent. I am not saying that just because I hate him, I am saying that as a comparison in political history.
It is, but even Hitler wasn't the first to use it. He only was the first to be able to make use of modern media, which hadn't been around previously.
The recipe is always the same, all around the world and all through the ages. Incite hatred, attack and make sure that your audience believes to belong to some special group. Hence, outsiders are bad, since they're threatening that particular group. Nothing else is required, even more so when times are bad. And they are. The world hasn't recovered since 2008 and many people are worse off than their parents were, with hardly any hope for recovery.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 10:35 am
(June 2, 2016 at 10:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote: If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.
I've been paying attention to politics since I was 18, I am 49 now. I've seen your standard mudslinging from both parties and "flip flopping" in both parties. That politics is normal. What Trump is doing is very dangerous regardless of party. It is a very apt description to equate his hyper nationalism and scapegoating that lead to the rise of Hitler and is the same propaganda tactic Un uses to silence dissent. I am not saying that just because I hate him, I am saying that as a comparison in political history.
Now again, right now, our system of checks and balances is in tact, and no, he could not suddenly become a dictator himself. But if other politicians in either party from the local to state and congressional level start using that same tactic, that can and will lead to long term damage. He really should scare the shit out of anyone who values western political pluralism. He is setting a very bad tone that neither political party should adapt just to win.
I get that and yeah i have a friend who is really deeply republican and he thinks trump is great in all honestly Trump as a person who is running for president should
scare the shit out of everyone giving that guy that amount of power is asking for trouble.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 1:36 pm
Well I do think I have broken my mom from voting GOP this time. She is for Bernie this time, but normally votes republican. I keep telling her while I also like Bernie, the math simply is not there anymore, but if she values SCOTUS and reproductive rights for women, that alone should make her hold her nose and vote for Hillary. The worst part is my mom really is a democrat both socially and economically, but she is of the cold war era and even prior to Hillary she has bought in to the right wing narrative despite her and I agreeing on every issue. GOP does a great job of getting people to vote against their own self interests.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 1:53 pm
(June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 9:45 am)abaris Wrote: I'm not even from this country, let alone a democrat. I attack him because I don't want to see anyone like this being in charge of nuclear weapons and the largest economy.
Apart from that, Trump follows the rightwing doctrine to a the letter. Attack, attack, attack, and nevermind I have no program apart from advertising bigotry and hatred. Everyone having two or more brain cells can easily see that what he calls his economic program can't work. Even less so in a globalized world.
If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.
We spend a shitload of money to train soldiers to follow orders.
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RE: Cant blame this on reporters and judges Trump
June 2, 2016 at 1:55 pm
What's new with Trump U?
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/this-is-...rning-joe/
Quote:‘This is straight up fraud’: New York’s attorney general shreds Trump University on ‘Morning Joe’
Quote:“Trump’s role was really a the pitchman,” he said. “And we’ve got his videotapes, and we’ve got his sworn testimony which undercuts every statement in the videotapes. He said, ‘My hand-picked experts will teach you my personal secrets.’ He and the president of the university have already testified under oath he never met the instructors, they weren’t hand-picked. They weren’t experts — some of them came out of fast food and retail. And he had nothing to do with the supposed secrets that were taught because he had nothing to do with the curriculum.”
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