Wish

[madog]

The definition of the word "theory" in science is not the same as it is used colloquially.  

You are correct Simon   ... but it should be noted that Professor Krauss doesn't use the term theory as alleged by purplepurpose, he is very clear when it is a theory, that is backed by empirical evidence and it his own opinions ....

Scientists have to have opinions beyond the frontier (aimed at Purpleprpose not you Simon) of what is known or the frontier wouldn't advance ... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

"A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.[3]"  

[MJ the Skeptical]

Are you content with the idea of permanent death?(materialistic world view). And isn't Ironical that pride and independence can only brings us "nothing"?

Are there people here who dont believe in gods idea and believe in godless afterlife? Isn't hypocritical to do so, as magic once accepted has no boundaries.

Religion and philosophy, in my opinion, bring only mental pain in the end, and thats why people avoide them. Although I admire believers suicidal tendencies towards their earthly pleasure to do more good things instead or pleasant.

1. Am I content with permanent death? Yes, providing that I get to live as long as I want before it all goes black. That's what I have a problem with, the randomness of death.

2. I love Irony, but I really don't get the second half of your first sentence.

3. I suppose reincarnation would be a form of an afterlife, and it's usually Buddhists that believe in that, who are atheists with dogmatic ideas. The only way I would believe in an afterlife is somehow transferring your brain to another form, since that's who I am, my brain. So technically not an afterlife, but after the expiration of my fleshy meat suit.

4. While I see your point that religion can bring pain, ultimately it brings quite a few people joy in an otherwise dreary world they live in. I don't advocate false hope, but it doesn't only bring pain to believe there's an afterlife. It brings delusion and misconception, but the point of an afterlife is for comfort in the face of death and the death of loved ones.

5. As far as philosophy only bringing pain, I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm more scientifically minded then philosophically but we couldn't have gotten as far as we did without philosophizing about our world. Is philosophy now overrated? Probably so, but it's still a great way to ponder about the questions we don't yet know.

6. I don't really understand your last sentence, are you trying to say believers have more suicidal tendencies because they recognize deep down they're beliefs are based on fragile notions of faith and that they don't really follow the bible and that they should make the best of this life they know actually exists? Your thread is really vague.

[Gemini]

4. While I see your point that religion can bring pain, ultimately it brings quite a few people joy in an otherwise dreary world they live in. I don't advocate false hope, but it doesn't only bring pain to believe there's an afterlife. It brings delusion and misconception, but the point of an afterlife is for comfort in the face of death and the death of loved ones.

A friend of mine died a couple years ago, from alcohol and prescription drugs. When I went to his funeral, his wife was insistent that he was in heaven.

The thought of saying, "No, he's just gone," didn't cross my mind. I just nodded.

But she was hurting anyway. Notwithstanding her belief in the afterlife, she was hurting. And I was hurting. It hurts everyone when you lose someone you love, no matter what you believe. Is believing in an afterlife really a comfort? 

I don't know.

[purplepurpose]

Are you content with the idea of permanent death?(materialistic world view). And isn't Ironical that pride and independence can only brings us "nothing"?

Are there people here who dont believe in gods idea and believe in godless afterlife? Isn't hypocritical to do so, as magic once accepted has no boundaries.

Religion and philosophy, in my opinion, bring only mental pain in the end, and thats why people avoide them. Although I admire believers suicidal tendencies towards their earthly pleasure to do more good things instead or pleasant.

1. Am I content with permanent death? Yes, providing that I get to live as long as I want before it all goes black. That's what I have a problem with, the randomness of death.

2. I love Irony, but I really don't get the second half of your first sentence.

3. I suppose reincarnation would be a form of an afterlife, and it's usually Buddhists that believe in that, who are atheists with dogmatic ideas. The only way I would believe in an afterlife is somehow transferring your brain to another form, since that's who I am, my brain. So technically not an afterlife, but after the expiration of my fleshy meat suit.

4. While I see your point that religion can bring pain, ultimately it brings quite a few people joy in an otherwise dreary world they live in. I don't advocate false hope, but it doesn't only bring pain to believe there's an afterlife. It brings delusion and misconception, but the point of an afterlife is for comfort in the face of death and the death of loved ones.

5. As far as philosophy only bringing pain, I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm more scientifically minded then philosophically but we couldn't have gotten as far as we did without philosophizing about our world. Is philosophy now overrated? Probably so, but it's still a great way to ponder about the questions we don't yet know.

6. I don't really understand your last sentence, are you trying to say believers have more suicidal tendencies because they recognize deep down they're beliefs are based on fragile notions of faith and that they don't really follow the bible and that they should make the best of this life they know actually exists? Your thread is really vague.

Destroying their pleasure in this life time calling it a sin. You could say its a suicide towards their earthly HAPPINESS leaving behind a life full of fear in God and bitter hard work.