We need to talk about Muhammad

[mralstoner]

[Regina]

Omar Mateen was gay, it came out he was on Grindr or some shit, and frequented the bar he shot up

[Minimalist]

You talk about mohammed.  I prefer to discuss real people.

[Kitan Etos]

Omar Mateen was gay, it came out he was on Grindr or some shit, and frequented the bar he shot up

It was as I figured, and it is sad that his extreme religious views afflicted him in such a way that he was unable to accept himself for who he was.

[Mister Agenda]

There's a lot of that going around, just with a lower body count.

[WinterHold]

Being bisexual myself, this is stunning !

To be honest, homosexuality is so spread in afghanistan-pakisten region, the middle east in general has some "hot zones" where this habit is widespread, if you want to know where, look at women: if they are locked inside bags then here's your gay country.

It is hard to get over homosexuality, I personally couldn't get over transsexual men myself, but I won't do the act in real life indeed.
But it's so hypocritical to visit gay chat rooms, then empty your frustration in the crowd. Low, disgusting and proves what the Quran always said: they shall be no compulsion in the acceptance of the religion.

Whoever wants to break out, should break out. But bigot sunnies/Shiites kill apostates..

Ah, one more thing: women taste better ! way, way better

[Spirian]

“Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.” -Socrates

I say let's discuss the ideology rather than the "person".

[WinterHold]

I just did in my previous comment.

Here's how it goes:

1-Obligatory constraints are forced between men and women in Muslim societies; thus the relationship between the males and females is twisted and bound to be "conservative" beyond belief (i.e reaching women is harder and harder for men).

2-The culture punished sex with women to be "an honor problem", leading males and females to commit gay sex since it satisfies their sexual needs, and protect them from the aftermath of honor problems -that include death for both parties-.

3-The society doesn't accept homosexuals, and blames homosexuals for the psychological state they are in, they prevent them from coming out of the closet ( due to honor; too, since homosexuality is precieved as a violation to a man's honor and a bringer of shame ), making the gay person locked and isolated, which leads to explosions similar to the Orlando shootings.

4-The problem goes back to the classic "honor killing" thing, which is spread in western Asia, from Jordan to Afganistan.

[abaris]

No, we don't, as usual, stoner. Not that any link you posted on this matter in the past was to be taken seriously. We need to talk about surpressed homosexuality and self hatred carried out on others there. But you might not have caught up with the news. Also, as usual.

[The Grand Nudger]

1-Obligatory constraints are forced between men and women in Muslim societies; thus the relationship between the males and females is twisted and bound to be "conservative" beyond belief (i.e reaching women is harder and harder for men).

Doesn't seem like it's hard to reach women.  Seems like it hard for them to tattle on men for reaching.....

2-The culture punished sex with women to be "an honor problem", leading males and females to commit gay sex since it satisfies their sexual needs, and protect them from the aftermath of honor problems -that include death for both parties-.

I think there's a simpler explanation for that.  Those people are gay.  That's what leads them to have gay sex....and it's not as if being gay solves any honor problem in a muslim society....  

3-The society doesn't accept homosexuals, and blames homosexuals for the psychological state they are in, they prevent them from coming out of the closet ( due to honor; too, since homosexuality is precieved as a violation to a man's honor and a bringer of shame ), making the gay person locked and isolated, which leads to explosions similar to the Orlando shootings.

Hehehe..hehehehehe...you think he shot those people because he was gay and frustrated about being gay, in some measure?  I don't know what to say, what an adorable opinion.  I think it might have had to do with certain things he believed...... 

4-The problem goes back to the classic "honor killing" thing, which is spread in western Asia, from Jordan to Afganistan.

I don't think he intended to save anyone's honor.