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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 1:35 pm
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They do murder gays. They're just rusty, comparatively.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 1:37 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 1:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: However, psychologists have long known about the mental stresses that can be caused by repression and self-loathing, and it's possible that those stresses, not his faith, that led him to snap.
His religious upbringing probably has played a role, since it painted him in an even tighter corner and possibly giving him an ulterior motif to get rid of what he perceived to be his inner devils. It's still repression being responsible for his deeds, and you find it with every religious nutjob blowing off at some point. Religion is just one way to justify what they do.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 1:46 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 11:47 am)Drich Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 5:44 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Fine no guns. Dripshit I wouldn't be suprised if there is a christard forum somewhere where you are currently jumping up and down in glee proclaiming that the victims got what they deserved. You're too big on the judgemental sectarianism of the bible for this to be unlikely. I don't hate gay people, and if you remember I clearly state that homosexuality is the same as any other sexual sin. What I dislike is 49 people died so the LGBT community can have a larger voice, that the leadership can push their political agendas by playing the victim card.
when clearly the shooter claim to be doing this to punish the west for attacking his "homeland."
To me this seems as just as underhanded as any other ISIS propaganda that inspires such attacks, because in the end they are using the dead to underscore and cement their political views.
... and what you're doing here is different... how, exactly?
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm
Yeah, it sucks that a minority population is going to use the worst mass shooting in our nation's history to, you know, unify and try to get people to not murder them any more. That's a dastardly agenda those LGBT folks have.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 2:04 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 11:47 am)Drich Wrote: I don't hate gay people, and if you remember I clearly state that homosexuality is the same as any other sexual sin. What I dislike is 49 people died so the LGBT community can have a larger voice, that the leadership can push their political agendas by playing the victim card.
when clearly the shooter claim to be doing this to punish the west for attacking his "homeland."
To me this seems as just as underhanded as any other ISIS propaganda that inspires such attacks, because in the end they are using the dead to underscore and cement their political views.
You are no different than the islamic extremists.... they say it's a sin as well and guess what if you lived in the middle east i wouldn't
be all that surprised if you turned into a radical extremist christian by your own words....
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 2:12 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Yeah, it sucks that a minority population is going to use the worst mass shooting in our nation's history to, you know, unify and try to get people to not murder them any more. That's a dastardly agenda those LGBT folks have.
It's not even about being murdered, since that, thankfully, doesn't happen on a daily basis. It's about pointing out what discrimination and demonization ultimately can lead to. It's about not being served at certain businesses, it's about pastors and other religious leaders constantly preaching how bad and sinful they are. All the little things preventing them from being perceived a normal part of society.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 2:18 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 2:12 pm)abaris Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Yeah, it sucks that a minority population is going to use the worst mass shooting in our nation's history to, you know, unify and try to get people to not murder them any more. That's a dastardly agenda those LGBT folks have.
It's not even about being murdered, since that, thankfully, doesn't happen on a daily basis. It's about pointing out what discrimination and demonization ultimately can lead to. It's about not being served at certain businesses, it's about pastors and other religious leaders constantly preaching how bad and sinful they are. All the little things preventing them from being perceived a normal part of society.
Along that line of thought, this series of tweets is incredibly moving:
https://twitter.com/aguywithnolife/statu...8466780161
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 2:35 pm
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From slavery to today, the blacks have had a rough time and it is not over yet. LGBT is probably not going to be any quicker as they are just the new 'black kid' on the block.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 2:59 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 11:47 am)Drich Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 5:44 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Fine no guns. Dripshit I wouldn't be suprised if there is a christard forum somewhere where you are currently jumping up and down in glee proclaiming that the victims got what they deserved. You're too big on the judgemental sectarianism of the bible for this to be unlikely. I don't hate gay people, and if you remember I clearly state that homosexuality is the same as any other sexual sin. What I dislike is 49 people died so the LGBT community can have a larger voice, that the leadership can push their political agendas by playing the victim card.
when clearly the shooter claim to be doing this to punish the west for attacking his "homeland."
To me this seems as just as underhanded as any other ISIS propaganda that inspires such attacks, because in the end they are using the dead to underscore and cement their political views.
You don't hate gay people yet you are more than happy to spew extreme homophobia, like your backdoor blaming of gay culture for the deaths of 49 people?
No wonder I don't believe a word you say.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 15, 2016 at 3:29 pm
(June 15, 2016 at 1:37 pm)abaris Wrote: (June 15, 2016 at 1:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: However, psychologists have long known about the mental stresses that can be caused by repression and self-loathing, and it's possible that those stresses, not his faith, that led him to snap.
His religious upbringing probably has played a role, since it painted him in an even tighter corner and possibly giving him an ulterior motif to get rid of what he perceived to be his inner devils. It's still repression being responsible for his deeds, and you find it with every religious nutjob blowing off at some point. Religion is just one way to justify what they do.
Exactly my point -- it's more likely correlation than causation in this case, I think.
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