Orlando shooting/The non gun debate

[Huggy Bear]

From slavery to today, the blacks have had a rough time and it is not over yet.  LGBT is probably not going to be any quicker as they are just the new 'black kid' on the block.

[Drich]

No dummy, what he should have done was denounce this "Muslim" Denounced his actions and said his actions are not supported by their religion. He should have also said we do not support nor condone this kind of evil on any level!

Which got nothing to do with what you just quoted - dummy. But you might look up the link I posted earlier. The 7 pastors celebrating the shooting. You will be as critical over what they have to say, I trust.

Now ask your self why I am critical of what they said...

Now ask yourself why the central Fl Imam WAS NOT critical over the actions taken by this shooter in the name of Alah!

That is my point. I can identify and be critical of what those 7 'christian's' said because their beliefs are not consistant with the bible.

The Imam can't, why? because the shooters actions are COMMANDED by His holy book. What the shooter did is apart of mainstream belief in that religion!!

do you still not get it?

[Drich]

So, the Charlie Hebdo and the Paris shootings are what??? another day in France? France is not known for it's strong religious ties nor guns, and this very thing happened there twice... So then why do people who attacked those at a soccer game and cafe goers not seem to count as 'people angry at things that shouldn't bother them?'

No France is different.
Mass shooting after Mass shooting is to be expected in the US. In a few days we'll be talking about the next one.

ah, no.. we are talking about the police chief stabbed in his home (in FRANCE)

[Drich]

No France is different.
Mass shooting after Mass shooting is to be expected in the US. In a few days we'll be talking about the next one.

Yeah... that's the sad thing about it... sandy hook that movie theater shooting the boston bombings and everything else 
we still haven't fucking learned a lesson....
argue for regulation the NRA yells you want to take away our guns in reality no no we don't want to take your guns away
we just want regulation to keep guns out of hands of irresponsible and ineligible people.

Boston BOMBING... what does that have to do with the NRA?

[The Grand Nudger]

You told us that he -was- critical but that you found his remarks on the subject to be unsatisfyingly general.

[Drich]

Don't get me wrong I really feel bad for the people and those they leave behind, what i feel disconnected from is this false sense of care and concern people have when again the bodies were not even identified yet and people were using this shooting to push their agendas

I guess you never noticed the agenda pushing directly after 9-11, because it was something you were a part of and agreed with.
I remember the forced patriotism. Flags flying from every car window and pasted in every store front.  
The government and half the preachers in America were using it to push their own agendas before the towers had even FALLEN.
It always happens.  You just feel disconnected this time because you are very tribal, and these people were not part of your tribe, nor is anyone pushing hte agendas of any of your tribes.  You are a sick hypocrite but too blind to see it.

that very well could be..

Or Since 9-11 tragedy has become a cottage industry, and sick politicians and media sources make billions on the deaths of victims.

[Drich]

I don't hate gay people, and if you remember I clearly state that homosexuality is the same as any other sexual sin. What I dislike is 49 people died so the LGBT community can have a larger voice, that the leadership can push their political agendas by playing the victim card.

when clearly the shooter claim to be doing this to punish the west for attacking his "homeland."

To me this seems as just as underhanded as any other ISIS propaganda that inspires such attacks, because in the end they are using the dead to underscore and cement their political views.

... and what you're doing here is different... how, exactly?

I don't understand... do you think I am playing the victim card?

[Drich]

Yeah, it sucks that a minority population is going to use the worst mass shooting in our nation's history to, you know, unify and try to get people to not murder them any more.  That's a dastardly agenda those LGBT folks have.

But, the war islam/isis is waging is not against that minority population, it's against all of us.

That's the digusting thing here. They are taking something that should be an afront to all americans and making specifically about anti gay sentiment.

How is this Not political propaganda?

If a political group is allowed to bend the facts to suit their agenda for any reason then things like truth are superseded by a "justifiable reason."

Thank goodness that Nothing in the History of man (1930's germany) has ever pointed to that sort of twisting of the truth for the sake of political propaganda has ever resulted in anything bad happening

[Drich]

From slavery to today, the blacks have had a rough time and it is not over yet.  LGBT is probably not going to be any quicker as they are just the new 'black kid' on the block.

No, what the LGBT is trying to do is pretend that they are the 'new black kid.' as that path is well worn and easily identifiable.

When in truth there is a huge gap between the two groups being intentionally over looked, which is the reason why one group was oppressed verse the other.

[Drich]

I don't hate gay people, and if you remember I clearly state that homosexuality is the same as any other sexual sin. What I dislike is 49 people died so the LGBT community can have a larger voice, that the leadership can push their political agendas by playing the victim card.

when clearly the shooter claim to be doing this to punish the west for attacking his "homeland."

To me this seems as just as underhanded as any other ISIS propaganda that inspires such attacks, because in the end they are using the dead to underscore and cement their political views.

You don't hate gay people yet you are more than happy to spew extreme homophobia, like your backdoor blaming of gay culture for the deaths of 49 people?

No wonder I don't believe a word you say.

explain how you see me blaming the gay community for killing any of the 49.