Orlando shooting/The non gun debate

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Thumpalumpacus]

The links I provided are about the centuries old Afghan practice of men raping boys.  The articles say that the practice is prevalent throughout the country but that it's more concentrated in certain areas.

The thing is, you said "just about all" Afghan males were "homosexual pedophiles" -- but when asked to support that claim, you couldn't.

Typical Woggie bullshit, running your mouth to get attention, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

What a jackoff.

[Minimalist]

[Minimalist]

I am really sick of this 'thoughts and prayers' shit, Thena.

They should just jerk off instead.  At least they'd accomplish something.

[Whateverist]

Hopefully the topic has gotten back to the really significant aspect of this whole sorry episode .. guns.

[Jackie]

I am really sick of this 'thoughts and prayers' shit, Thena.

They should just jerk off instead.  At least they'd accomplish something.

I just got accused by another atheist who is a gun worshiper, on another website is that "gun control" will just give power to the "elite government".

It is simply conspiracy garbage. There is no party oath or religious oath to serve in any public office, congress or military or law enforcement. For a conspiracy to work at that scale, everyone would have to be in on it. It is nothing short of fucking paranoia. So basically this asshole, and everyone who claims shit like this, would have us believe that hundreds of millions of voters who disagree with them are all in on it? 100,000s of different agency members as individuals who are politically diverse in the FBI, CIA, Homeland security, ATF ect ect, are all one giant "elite" single group all in on it.

So everyone who belongs to CSGV, and Moms Demand and EveryTown and NewtownAction, and ever family member who has had a family member be a victim of gun violence, all of those people, and all the voters who support them, are all part of a "elite conspiracy".

BULLSHIT, the only real conspiracy are by the makers and blood lobby NRA, whom are in reality the minority, even when the majority of gun owners want something done. 

I live in a trailer, hardly "elite" so my mere voting is part of a "elite" conspiracy? These assholes might as well be claiming the moon landing was faked.

[Jackie]

Hopefully the topic has gotten back to the really significant aspect of this whole sorry episode .. guns.

Arguing with gun worshipers is no different than arguing religion. They are like pigeons who knock over the chess pieces and declare victory when they never had a valid argument in the first place.

[abaris]

I just got accused by another atheist who is a gun worshiper, on another website is that "gun control" will just give power to the "elite government".

Nevermind that. Couple of years ago, my grandfather got accused of not fighting the Nazis, gun in hand, instead of emmigrating to save his family. In a similar debate. I can't even imagine the level of ignorance behind that line of thinking.

[Jackie]

I just got accused by another atheist who is a gun worshiper, on another website is that "gun control" will just give power to the "elite government".

Nevermind that. Couple of years ago, my grandfather got accused of not fighting the Nazis, gun in hand, instead of emmigrating to save his family. In a similar debate. I can't even imagine the level of ignorance behind that line of thinking.

Let me see if I am understanding you correctly. Your grandfather immigrated instead of staying and fighting? If I am right, so what? I hate male testosterone, not all men are cut out for the battlefield and just like any threat of violence, even in street crime, and rape, it isn't fight or flight as either or, but whatever got you to the point of survival is what worked. Blaming people fleeing war is sick, even today. If I got that wrong correct me.

[Minimalist]

They don't call them "ammosexuals" for nothing, Brian.