Posts: 32793
Threads: 1409
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:22 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You can read Quran with negative attitude, or you can begin to reflect over it with charitable attitude towards it.
I would rather maintain my critical thinking skills by understanding that my interpretation is not wrong. Then, neither would I even attempt to persuade others of my interpretation. My intelligence allows me to remain true to myself while reading something, because I am not going to fall prey to someone else's design.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 7:06 pm)Losty Wrote: Point to me a clear path of truth and a self evident God and perhaps I'll be interested.
I've tried over the years. What do you think of the argument that we require an just judgement and perception to who we are, to have an exact merit type value? Is it that we don't have exact merit type value or is that it doesn't require perception to exist? Or is that we do have and it requires perception, and we are the perception that maintains it?
I feel the Quran aside from the name of God, begins with that argument in the first Surah revealed (Suratal Iqra).
"Do they (the human) think no one sees them (the human)?"
Wut
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 8214
Threads: 394
Joined: November 2, 2011
Reputation:
44
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:32 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm)Losty Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I've tried over the years. What do you think of the argument that we require an just judgement and perception to who we are, to have an exact merit type value? Is it that we don't have exact merit type value or is that it doesn't require perception to exist? Or is that we do have and it requires perception, and we are the perception that maintains it?
I feel the Quran aside from the name of God, begins with that argument in the first Surah revealed (Suratal Iqra).
"Do they (the human) think no one sees them (the human)?"
Wut
Merit type value.
1. Can it exist on it's own with no one seeing it or does it exist through perception?
2. If it exists through perception, are we that perception or does it require a more greater perception then ours?
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:37 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm)Losty Wrote: Wut
Merit type value.
1. Can it exist on it's own with no one seeing it or does it exist through perception?
2. If it exists through perception, are we that perception or does it require a more greater perception then ours?
Individual perception is invalid. If it exists only through your own perception then it would exist and not exist depending on individual perception.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 32793
Threads: 1409
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm
Perception is a tricky tool.
We each perceive what we wish, even if it is not real.
It is why eye witness testimony is not precisely accepted merely on the merit of perception.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
Posts: 8214
Threads: 394
Joined: November 2, 2011
Reputation:
44
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:50 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 7:37 pm)Losty Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 7:32 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Merit type value.
1. Can it exist on it's own with no one seeing it or does it exist through perception?
2. If it exists through perception, are we that perception or does it require a more greater perception then ours?
Individual perception is invalid. If it exists only through your own perception then it would exist and not exist depending on individual perception.
Does merit type value exist then?
Posts: 67079
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 7:52 pm
Doesn't the statement you just quoted directly answer the question asked?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 29577
Threads: 116
Joined: February 22, 2011
Reputation:
159
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:01 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 6:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (June 17, 2016 at 6:49 pm)Losty Wrote: I don't know...I don't hold anything to such a high degree of value. I'm not following any path. I just wind up wherever life takes me. I don't think I'm seeking anything nor do I have any specific intentions in mind. I'm just...living.
From my perspective:
Not following the true path is itself following a path of falsehood. Apathy to the truth is itself rebellion against it. Apathy to the existence of God is disrespect of God.
"War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength"
Posts: 166
Threads: 5
Joined: May 21, 2016
Reputation:
8
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:50 pm
What makes a religion?
Fools and charlatans.
Posts: 32793
Threads: 1409
Joined: March 15, 2013
Reputation:
152
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 8:52 pm
Anytime someone is over-charismatic, that is a sign that the individual is not mentally stable.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
|