Best Qur'an?

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[Sheed1980]

[ReptilianPeon]

Let's compare how many people Iblis has killed and how many people Allah has killed. We keep being told by the Quran how weak Iblis is. So Allah wins right? Allah controls all after all.

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[Sheed1980]

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[Sheed1980]

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[Sheed1980]

Well of all the info I've given u u still seem to deny it as true. That is fine. There is no compulsion in Religion as stated in the Qur'an. It is not in my power or will to guide u to accept Islam as ur religion. I only give u the true signs about it which show why I have increased faith that it is the word of God Allah. So as we are told to say to those who disbelieve. "To you be your way of belief and to me be my way of belief". Good luck to u my friend

You've given me the info and I've debunked/shown all of it wrong, what's the problem here? If you're going to deny that I've debunked them, which I have then you're the ignorant one here. I've met your claims one by one, providing you many many sources that you can check for yourself yet I'm the ignorant one. You've provided so called miracles and I've explained all of them to you without the need of god and even showed some wrong, and the Qur'an can't be wrong if it really is the word of god. E.g the mountains and earthquakes were wrong and nonsensical.

However, it is your decision, you do you, I do me. But if you really want to learn something you'll read this through and make up your mind after researching instead of believing what a site tells you. I was also a muslim two years ago, the difference between me and you is I researched everything I read, I didn't believe everything that worked in my favor and supported Islam, that's how I ended up as an atheist. I encourage you do the same.

Insha'allah I will never leave Allah's path of guidance. Islam is true teachings and worship of the Only true God alone which all Prophets pbut and their true followers worshiped as well. I fear Allah's wrath and torment and beg and pray for His mercy and reward. I'm sorry to hear u left Islam. But as u said u do u and I do me.

[WinterHold]

There are no miracles with Mohammed; actually it was a topic of controversy between him & the Heathens of Mecca; they demanded "signs" and "miracles"; and the reply came decisive in the Quran:

( Sura 6 Verse 35 )   And if their evasion is difficult for you, then if you are able to seek a tunnel into the earth or a stairway into the sky to bring them a sign, [then do so]. But if Allah had willed, He would have united them upon guidance. So never be of the ignorant.

The Quran should be enough:

( Sura 29 Verse 50 )   But they say, "Why are not signs sent down to him from his Lord?" Say, "The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a clear warner."
( 51 )   And is it not sufficient for them that We revealed to you the Book which is recited to them? Indeed in that is a mercy and reminder for a people who believe.

It's clear that Mohammed had no signs/miracles with him.

Another verse asserts the opinion:

( Sura 6 Verse 37 )   And they say, "Why has a sign not been sent down to him from his Lord?" Say, "Indeed, Allah is Able to send down a sign, but most of them do not know.

Ironically enough, another verse asserts this more and more:

( Sura 6 Verse 109 )   And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that if a sign came to them, they would surely believe in it. Say, "The signs are only with Allah." And what will make you perceive that even if a sign came, they would not believe.

Moreover, to prove this opinion more and more:

( Sura 17 Verse 59 )   And nothing has prevented Us from sending signs except that the former peoples denied them. And We gave Thamud the she-camel as a visible sign, but they wronged her. And We send not the signs except as a warning.

So excuse me, but what signs are you discussing, exactly?


Sheed: the Sunni faith is masking the Quran, via advocating that Mohammed did come with miracles -such as cracking the moon (#note: the cracking of the moon in the Quran is only mentioned in this verse):

(Sura 54 Verse 1) The hour has came close and the moon was cracked

?Any mention of Mohammed cracking it? we already know in 2016, that the moon might be a part of earth that cracked and went astray to have its own orbit early in the history of the universe; a mere scary proof on how infinite and limitless and eternal God is; to him judgement day is near since....million of years..before we're even created..

Though Sheed; Sunna comes in to wreck your whole reasoning, and dictates that you -probably unintentionally-  to ignore clear Quranic verses to take Hadiths, that contradict every word God said in his book.

Rozkek:

Your research missed lots of corners.