Is white privilege real? To what extent?

[paulpablo]

Out of curiosity, when was the last time in 32 pages that a black person responded to this thread?

I've just had a thought too. When was the last time an Asian posted on this thread?

[The Viking]

This escalated predictably...

[Edwardo Piet]

On the contrary. Lostys arguments have been ok in this thread.However, when they go off on one simply because they have their own personal agenda,

No they don't. When you responded to her it was when she was already done repeating her arguments which she already clarified. It wasn't a rant at all: how about you just get a sense of humor perhaps?

she disliked the idea of an individual having his own opinion because it contradicted her own.

No she did not. Nothing implied that you made that own assumption yourself based on nothing and she already explicity clarifiet to you that that is not the case. So if you're not going to believe her own expressions of her true intentions then you're wasting your time.

I know when people are either subjective, objective and full of shit. 
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My opinion is that you are full of yourself....

Sounds to me like you're full of yourself actually. You know when people are subjective, objective and full of shit. You also seem to know what people's true intentions are and you don't listen when they clarify them.

... or perhaps you just think you knows stuff and you can't argue properly.

[RobertE]

On the contrary. Lostys arguments have been ok in this thread. However, when they go off on one simply because they have their own personal agenda, it needs to be brought up. Furthermore, she disliked the idea of an individual having his own opinion because it contradicted her own. If she cannot open her mind to other possibilities, then it isn't his problem and not mine either. This is typical of liberalism at its finest, the very same people who love to criticise Christianism and then in the same breath, stop people from criticising Islam when they are as both as bad as the other. If she cannot debate without opening up other avenues just as Paul did, then that means she can't be great at debating. I am an amateur by the way, but I know when people are either subjective, objective and full of shit. 

My opinion is that you are full of yourself....

What is my personal agenda?

Please quote when I told Paul to shut up or otherwise insinuated that he shouldn't express his opinions.

This isn't a debate. It's a discussion. Your points are made up and they don't even matter. Am I being punk'd on whose line is it anyways?

Your own agenda that there is no other privilege that exists except "white privilege", which is nonsense. Privilege exists all over, whatever colour or religion you are. Take a look at Bahrain, where the majority are Shias, but Sunnites are "privileged." How about those in India who do NOT have the right to an education as opposed to others who have that right? How about more white players in NBA, or is it simply "black privilege"? 

Are you serious. This thread has gone on for a million pages. You've said nothing but "wah wah white privilege is real but I don't like it because of dictionaries and plus I don't wanna talk about it." And "All privileges matter" and other such bullshit. Also, it's at least the 3rd or 4th thread of this shit. We get it, you don't like talking about white privilege because not every single white person in the world is overly privileged, and also because Asian people have some privilege. Wanka wanka stop blaming white people for racism. What is there left to do but make jokes?

All you have done in the above is attack the poster without attacking the issue at hand. You have done two things, ad-hom and you also pooh-pooh'd the idea that "all privileges matter." Why don't you think this is just?

[Jackalope]

The reply I'm getting is NO WE FUCKING DON'T YOU RACIST CUNT WHY IS THIS TOPIC BEING QUESTIONED YOU JUST DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT blah blah blah.

If this is what you're hearing, you aren't listening very well.

[The Grand Nudger]

Your own agenda that there is no other privilege that exists except "white privilege", which is nonsense. Privilege exists all over, whatever colour or religion you are. Take a look at Bahrain, where the majority are Shias, but Sunnites are "privileged." How about those in India who do NOT have the right to an education as opposed to others who have that right? How about more white players in NBA, or is it simply "black privilege"? 

The privileges that exist in Bahrain pertain to the US, and contradict the fact of those privileges demonstrable -in- the US....... how?

Do you think that people get signed to professional basketball teams because they;re black..or because they put points on the board and create merchandising opportunities for their white overlords...who then trade them around not entirely unlike the livestock they used to be..until they're too lame with overwork to till the proverbial row.....lol? Good god, bringing up pro sports is a hell of a way to shoot yourself in the foot.....if you weren't aware.

[Edwardo Piet]

@ RobertE

When did Losty say no other privilege besides white privilege ever exists? Oh wait I know when: It was never. She never said that. Just like she never said Pablo couldn't express his own opinion.

How about you actually start responding to what was actually said if you wanna respond yeah?

[RobertE]

On the contrary. Lostys arguments have been ok in this thread.However, when they go off on one simply because they have their own personal agenda,

No they don't. When you responded to her it was when she was already done repeating her arguments which she already clarified. It wasn't a rant at all: how about you just get a sense of humor perhaps?

she disliked the idea of an individual having his own opinion because it contradicted her own.

No she did not. Nothing implied that you made that own assumption yourself based on nothing and she already explicity clarifiet to you that that is not the case. So if you're not going to believe her own expressions of her true intentions then you're wasting your time.

I know when people are either subjective, objective and full of shit. 
[...]
My opinion is that you are full of yourself....

Sounds to me like you're full of yourself actually. You know when people are subjective, objective and full of shit. You also seem to know what people's true intentions are and you don't listen when they clarify them.

... or perhaps you just think you knows stuff and you can't argue properly.

I have seen her arguments and to be honest, you may think very little of me (I am not that bothered) however, for someone who is supposed to be experienced in this sort of thing, it was amateur from her. They discussed the idea, but it was simply a no-win situation for either of them.  One person was stuck with the idea that "white privilege", exists and it does as a personal opinion not just for me, but for many others including Paul, but when he presented his side, it just went back and forth. Yes, I am full of shit, but only after the bolus has taken 12 hours from the moment I put it into my mouth and the moment it leaves the large intestine, unless I have a stomach problem, then it can be less....how about that for humour....

[abaris]

I've just had a thought too. When was the last time an Asian posted on this thread?

I'm constantly asking myself what asians have to with anything when it comes to white privilege. Feel free to open yet another thread on yellow privilege. But white privilege is a western thing. And if you fails to see it's a reality, you're either resorting to some serious mental acrobatics or you wanted to post a loaded question right from the get go to get some confirmation of poor whitey being falsely accused of something yet again.

[paulpablo]

The reply I'm getting is NO WE FUCKING DON'T YOU RACIST CUNT WHY IS THIS TOPIC BEING QUESTIONED YOU JUST DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT blah blah blah.

If this is what you're hearing, you aren't listening very well.

What I'm hearing is that starting a thread about white privilege means I don't want to talk about it.

Expressing my opinion about the extent of white privilege is the same as denying its existence. It also means I don't care about racism.

And that additional information relating to a topic clouds and confuses that topic.