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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 2:48 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 2:31 pm)The_Empress Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:19 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Why not?
First, we're talking about people, not simple statistics. Second, when you're comparing the actual numbers, say multiple hundreds of people killed by cops in the US compared to, say, nine in China with comparable numbers of law enforcement, thousands of per cents are actual, real numbers.
That I have to explain that is effing ridiculous.
And you think the 630 figure is all unjustified killings? None in self-defense or in defense of others?
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Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 2:51 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Escalate to killing you, because you're white?
I may be wrong but I think they are only killing white cops.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 2:48 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:31 pm)The_Empress Wrote: First, we're talking about people, not simple statistics. Second, when you're comparing the actual numbers, say multiple hundreds of people killed by cops in the US compared to, say, nine in China with comparable numbers of law enforcement, thousands of per cents are actual, real numbers.
That I have to explain that is effing ridiculous.
And you think the 630 figure is all unjustified killings? None in self-defense or in defense of others?
I'm comparing raw numbers to raw numbers. I said nothing about justified or unjustified in any of the countries I cited.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm)The_Empress Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:48 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: And you think the 630 figure is all unjustified killings? None in self-defense or in defense of others?
I'm comparing raw numbers to raw numbers. I said nothing about justified or unjustified in any of the countries I cited.
Is that a dodge?
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:01 pm
Just coming across the news while watching events in Baton Rouge. Seems there's a hostage situation taking place in Boston. No other info yet.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:04 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I'm comparing raw numbers to raw numbers. I said nothing about justified or unjustified in any of the countries I cited.
Is that a dodge?
A dodge of what? I'm responding to your assertion that police shootings in the US aren't an epidemic. I've given you my opinion and why I have it. Take it or leave it.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:07 pm
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(July 17, 2016 at 2:51 pm)KUSA Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Escalate to killing you, because you're white?
I may be wrong but I think they are only killing white cops.
So, no...not you, and not because you're white....but it gives you an excuse to say so, to voice a common and ubiquitously held fear that might otherwise be socially unacceptable?
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:14 pm
It's not known yet who these shooters are. The investigations are in the initial stages and the fbi is now on the scene.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:34 pm
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(July 17, 2016 at 2:10 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (July 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Considering the statistics in other countries, yes, it is an epidemic.
-Three in the UK in 2015, approximately 0.000023%
-Twenty one in Canada in 2015, approximately 0.00030%
-Nine in China in 2015, approximately 0.0000005%
-Two in Germany in 2015, approximately 0.0000006%
Going off these two lists (if there are problems with my statistics and math, please let me know- not my strongest skill sets):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_k...t_officers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...e_officers
Are you arguing over thousands of a percent?
If a new contagious disease kills 600 mostly healthy and young people in 6 month in the US, it would be considered a major lethal epidemic, and every news program, newspaper, every school and hospital would be talking about it.
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RE: Another Police Shooting
July 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm
(July 17, 2016 at 1:21 pm)KUSA Wrote: Why do they shoot random police officers? If they are mad about this then why don't they go after the cops that actually unjustly killed people?
We'll at least they went after the group responsible for one of the recent citizen executions this time, instead of a group like in Dallas which is said to be exemplary. Not that this is a good thing in any way. It's at least as regrettable as when any other citizen is executed in this gun mad country.
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