Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape.

[abaris]

So you do not thing that her and the wife, should make amends?

Because the husband is a lowlife prick taking advantage of the victim? The wife should have an issue with her husband, not with the victim. So, no, someone being raped doesn't have to make amends with anyone.

[RoadRunner79]

So you do not thing that her and the wife, should make amends?

Because the husband is a lowlife prick taking advantage of the victim? The wife should have an issue with her husband, not with the victim. So, no, someone being raped doesn't have to make amends with anyone.

Ok... we'll distort things in the most negative way possible, to suit your view.... I'm done.

[abaris]

Ok... we'll distort things in the most negative way possible, to suit your view.... I'm done.

Good, since it has been an argument ex culum from the get go.

[drfuzzy]

What has she to make amends for? For that sucker raping her, who already pleaded guilty to the charges? What's on her side that requires this to be a multi sided endeavor?

So you do not thing that her and the wife, should make amends?  What did the wife do?  Should she harbor ill -feelings towards the wife?

The wife is a non-entity in this scenario.  Her husband committed rape.  The child is the victim.  What the child thinks about the wife, positive or negative, is a non-issue, except perhaps to the therapist the child should be talking to in order to heal from the hideous crime that was inflicted upon her body and mind.

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Pat Mustard]

[RoadRunner79]

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm not putting the onus only on her, and can imagine, that it may be more difficult for the wife to make amends.  Also from what the church said, they didn't require anything.  I don't think it is about blame.

The thing is, the church is putting the onus on her. Why should a victim of molestation be urged to make amends by the agency that employed her molester?

The church's denial was issued to the press, not a court. The mother's accusation that the church required amends was made under oath in a court. I'd put more stock in the latter, both because it was sworn testimony, and because I've seen too often how shitty churches can treat people who stand up to abuse under the rubric of faith.

[RoadRunner79]

I'm not putting the onus only on her, and can imagine, that it may be more difficult for the wife to make amends.  Also from what the church said, they didn't require anything.  I don't think it is about blame.

The thing is, the church is putting the onus on her. Why should a victim of molestation be urged to make amends by the agency that employed her molester?

The church's denial was issued to the press, not a court. The mother's accusation that the church required amends was made under oath in a court. I'd put more stock in the latter, both because it was sworn testimony, and because I've seen too often how shitty churches can treat people who stand up to abuse under the rubric of faith.

Was he employed by the church? I'm not sure why, I was under the impression that this wasn't a very big church. And as I said, I see things differently,

I'm not saying that they couldn't, be trying to cover themselves; but I just don't see that in the story....

[Thumpalumpacus]

He was their youth pastor. Are you being intentionally obtuse? The article in the OP reports that at the head of the third paragraph.

I have no idea what you think they're "covering" themselves from, nor what that has to do with my point.