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9-11, give me a break.
RE: 9-11, give me a break.
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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 15, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: A big shiny aluminum plane crashed into the building one floor above the molten metal trails.  Coincidence?

Please explain how this molten metal located near the top of this huge skyscraper caused the building to collapse in on itself the way it did? I genuinely want to know.

A demolition team couldn't have done a better job.

There's no mystical science at work here. Hot steel looses its structural integrity at temperatures much lower than those of burning jet fuel (even below 1000F), there's no need for the steel to melt. Once it has softened to a certain point, it can no longer support the weight of the floors above, when the collapse begins, physics (i.e. gravity) takes over and the building falls vertically, the floors below cannot support the force of the collapsing portions on top. As the reaction continues, the inertia of the falling building only increases. 

I'm not sure what people expect, why would the building suddenly fall in a different direction than the force of gravity (towards the earth's core)?
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 4:26 pm)BetaOrionis Wrote:
(September 15, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Please explain how this molten metal located near the top of this huge skyscraper caused the building to collapse in on itself the way it did? I genuinely want to know.

A demolition team couldn't have done a better job.

There's no mystical science at work here. Hot steel looses its structural integrity at temperatures much lower than those of burning jet fuel (even below 1000F), there's no need for the steel to melt. Once it has softened to a certain point, it can no longer support the weight of the floors above, when the collapse begins, physics (i.e. gravity) takes over and the building falls vertically, the floors below cannot support the force of the collapsing portions on top. As the reaction continues, the inertia of the falling building only increases. 

I'm not sure what people expect, why would the building suddenly fall in a different direction than the force of gravity (towards the earth's core)?
*emphasis mine*

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=lO9kAw3GR3A
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 15, 2016 at 4:26 pm)BetaOrionis Wrote: There's no mystical science at work here. Hot steel looses its structural integrity at temperatures much lower than those of burning jet fuel (even below 1000F), there's no need for the steel to melt. Once it has softened to a certain point, it can no longer support the weight of the floors above, when the collapse begins, physics (i.e. gravity) takes over and the building falls vertically, the floors below cannot support the force of the collapsing portions on top. As the reaction continues, the inertia of the falling building only increases. 

I'm not sure what people expect, why would the building suddenly fall in a different direction than the force of gravity (towards the earth's core)?
*emphasis mine*

https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=lO9kAw3GR3A

I'm not sure how this is related to the WTC collapse? It's quite obvious watching the video that the demolitions were not timed/placed correctly - one half of the building began collapse before the other, causing the building to fall to the side instead of vertically. Also the structural supports would not have been weakened by fire.
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
Oh so you're saying that the demolitions that took down the WTC were in fact timed and placed correctly?
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Oh so you're saying that the demolitions that took down the WTC were in fact timed and placed correctly?


Rolleyes Sure. It's not like an airliner flew into them or anything.
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
Which in no way explains why the buildings fell in a controlled manner.
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 5:07 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Which in no way explains why the buildings fell in a controlled manner.

Believe what you want. The reality is that crazy theists hijacked airliners laden with jet fuel, and flew them into the WTC towers. The resultant fire and weakening of the structural steel began the inevitable collapse. 

I'm not sure how else to explain it, so I won't bother. If you want to believe that our government perfectly placed prodigious amounts of explosives in each tower (that nobody ever saw), set them off without any actual evidence being left behind, fooling the entire scientific community (other than Dr. Thermite, of course), please carry on. Conspiracies are exciting, aren't they? 

Step 1) Destroy WTC
Step 2) ?????
Step 3) Profit
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
(September 15, 2016 at 4:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: *emphasis mine*

Are you quite capable of looking up expert opinions on this? Or a you just content to resort to conspiracy bullshit just like the rest of the tinfoil crowd. I had you down for a religious dogmatic boardering on fanaticism, but you're quickly moving into outright idiot territory. Uninformed and spewing whatever you saw in some youtube video on the web.

Care to inform yourself or be chalked off as the usual idiot brand buying every bullshit that's served to them.
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RE: 9-11, give me a break.
Conspiracy Theorists will always point to science they don't really understand (I wouldn't be surprised if none of them have even taken a high school level physics course, and certainly not college level courses). There's a good reason for this--because they can then rely on 'experts'. They can pick and choose the experts they like. The ones they agree with, while ignoring anyone who disagrees with them. It's much like how many Christians will use the second law of thermodynamics to 'prove god', but probably have no idea what the first law of thermodynamics is, and certainly don't know the third. They learn what is useful to them, and then discard the rest.

Of course they also ignore the nagging questions--like how the government managed to get thousands of pounds of explosives into the buildings without anyone noticing, then kept everyone involved in the project (including the low level workmen who would have had to carry the explosives into the building--because let's be honest, if there's a shadow government they aren't doing the heavy lifting). What did they quickly dispose of all the workmen who would have had to plant the explosives? If so, how and where?

And of course it ignores just how long planned demolitions actually take to prepare. Not to mention that the bomb sniffing dogs managed to miss all of this. (No, they did not remove the bomb sniffing dogs. That's been rebutted plenty of times)

Also they left absolutely no evidence behind other than the physics of it all in this massive conspiracy and coverup. (Which apparently Al Qaeda was also involved in, even though it would mean war with the people they conspired with... for reasons unknown)

Until you can explain all of that^ you don't get to use physics you don't understand to suggest your little pet theory.
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