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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
December 17, 2023 at 1:02 am
(December 16, 2023 at 8:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: An organization - ANY organization - that is knowingly complicit in sexual abuse and kidnapping IS a 'bad' organization, by definition.
Boru Absolutely. The most distressing thing about the revelations that came to light during the investigations of the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal was that at no point in the decades-long process of shuttling abuser priests from parish to parish and covering up their crimes did anyone in the organization question whether the safety of children should be a consideration in the high command's decision making. As another poster remarked above, it must have long been an open secret in predator circles that being a Catholic priest carries a lot less risk than being a grade-school janitor or Cub Scout troop leader.
Full disclosure, the parish I attended had three, count-em-three, priests on the abuser database. I remember two of them very well and even served as an altar boy with these creeps in the early 80s. At the time I had no idea any such thing was going on, but I was one of the older kids in the bunch and hence probably not the easiest target. And I'll say right now that my uncle who was a well-respected priest for many years was never accused of any wrongdoing.
So along with capitulating to the Nazis and causing an AIDS catastrophe in Africa, the Catholic Church's history of child abuse makes it so that if I never have to set foot in a Catholic Church again, I'll die a happy man.
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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
December 17, 2023 at 5:26 am
(December 16, 2023 at 9:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I grew up in the Church and nothing like that ever happened to me or anyone I knew. Just saying.
I know some people aren't as fortunate.
It puzzles me that these people who do that stuff would be affiliated with any church.
It's like, if you want to do bad things, why bother pretending about some religious whatever?
(Bold mine)
It's for protection. If you want to be a loan shark, you join the Mafia. If you want to diddle little kids, the Catholic Church will cover for you.
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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
December 21, 2023 at 1:17 am
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
December 21, 2023 at 12:39 pm
(December 17, 2023 at 5:26 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 16, 2023 at 9:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I grew up in the Church and nothing like that ever happened to me or anyone I knew. Just saying.
I know some people aren't as fortunate.
It puzzles me that these people who do that stuff would be affiliated with any church.
It's like, if you want to do bad things, why bother pretending about some religious whatever?
(Bold mine)
It's for protection. If you want to be a loan shark, you join the Mafia. If you want to diddle little kids, the Catholic Church will cover for you.
Boru
The difference between the Mafia and the Church is one is a highly organized group of thugs under the order of an untouchable figurehead who uses manipulative tactics and threats of violence to ensure total compliance from their victims and the other is the Italian Mafia.
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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
December 21, 2023 at 1:16 pm
(December 16, 2023 at 9:54 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I grew up in the Church and nothing like that ever happened to me or anyone I knew. Just saying.
So if the Catholic Church didn't fuck you up who did?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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December 22, 2023 at 8:24 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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January 7, 2024 at 8:15 pm
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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January 14, 2024 at 6:13 am
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RE: Damned Pervert Priests - and other assorted Holy Scumbags
January 15, 2024 at 1:03 pm
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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