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Tower of Bible and creation of languages
#11
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
Quote:But wait, there's more...

Actually, there is far less....but only first class fucking assholes like you believe it, dripshit.
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#12
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
(September 18, 2016 at 11:44 am)Drich Wrote:
(September 18, 2016 at 7:19 am)mcolafson Wrote: Greetings,

You are probably familiar with this,
You are discussing with a Christian his/her Bible,
then you say for example, 'How can loving God command killing of babies?'
and quote this,
And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.
...
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, sic. Numbers 31:7, 16-17

And this theist replies, 'But you know, the Hebrew words does not mean killing. It means giving sweet, honey-flavored milk to the babies!'
Then you probably feel stupid that you don't know Hebrew (as well as Greek and Aramaic).

So, it got me thinking, 'Why are we atheists? Because we speak all these stupid modern languages instead of just one godly language spoken in the good old times. So, many languages, translations, mis-translations of God's word...'
But, wait a sec, was it it God who confused the languages? Was it His intention to create atheists?'
And to watch Christians have arguments with Jews over the Almah word ?

But wait, there's more...

Isn't God also the one who has perserved his word, provided translation and resources like the blue letter bible to help even the dumbest among us to identify the meaning and intent of the Hebrew and Greek?

All we need to bring to the table is the slightest curiosity and only enough follow through to type in a web address and a book chapter and verse.

You do not know, because you do not ask. You do not ask because foolish pride told you, you already know. Then you get huffy because you are corrected???

This is what you douche bags do with 'proof' (Which is why God is not chasing after you all with signs and wonders.) You all trivialize, minimize and mock what you can not refute. "proof" is nothing more than a lazy excuse to live the life you think you want to live.

Because again apologetically, when you have been proven wrong concerning the nature of God... Look what you do with said 'proof' of your theological failures.

(there is no proof of God argument from someone who does not understand what I said here in 3..2..1...)

My advice to you is to try and be an atheist for a month. If your faith survives that, I'm sure Dad will be very proud.
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#13
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
(September 18, 2016 at 11:44 am)Drich Wrote: Isn't God also the one who has perserved his word, provided translation and resources like the blue letter bible to help even the dumbest among us to identify the meaning and intent of the Hebrew and Greek?

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
― Daniel J. Boorstin

You think that you can understand with your word study and your doctrines about plain meaning, but all you do is delude yourself.
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#14
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
Oddly, the answer to dripshit's question is "no."  'God' never does shit.  Humans did all that.  Badly, as usual.
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#15
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
So, what is the theists explanation of languages like French, Italian, Spanish?
God created more languages to increase the confusion?
After the supposed birth and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, God was still afraid that people will build the tower of Babel?

And why are there many programming languages? Is to make sure machines will not build their tower of Babel?
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#16
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
(September 18, 2016 at 6:16 pm)mcolafson Wrote: So, what is the theists explanation of languages like French, Italian, Spanish?
God created more languages to increase the confusion?
After the supposed birth and crucifixion of Jesus Christ, God was still afraid that people will build the tower of Babel?

And why are there many programming languages? Is to make sure machines will not build their tower of Babel?

I'm certainly not a theist, but I can answer for one that I live with. My boyfriend, who is Christian, writes off silly stories like the Tower of Babel as fantastical fables that never happened, but had cultural value at some point in history. Even though he believes the core ideas in the bible, he accepts that a lot of extra bullshit was inserted by man as well. He's at least capable of tossing out the craziest of claims, so I can work with that. Fundamental biblical literalists make me cringe.

I'm not here to defend his point of view, so please don't ask for more detail on that one.  Rolleyes
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#17
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
And towers of hubris do not fail on there own? Or is it calamity by disharmony in the face of immutable natural law? Or is God throwing thunder? How much does it matter if the results are the same?

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"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#18
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
Does your boyfriend acknowledge he's on a slippery slope in being the ultimate arbiter of what's right and what's (supposedly) wrong in the Bible ?

How do we know the prohibition against allowing menstruating women in church, for instance, isn't a VERY BIG deal to God ??

(or insert any of a seeming myriad of bizzaro does and don'ts in scripture there)
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#19
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
Here's one you haven't heard: The Tower of Babel was an exotic energy device in the same class as the ark of the covenant (that thing was a weapon of mass destruction and could kill at a distance or a touch) and they were trying to back-engineer the same tech and apply it on a larger scale.

They didn't build it to spec and the thing self detonated with an EMP pulse strong enough to scramble brains.

Cool
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#20
RE: Tower of Bible and creation of languages
Quote:but had cultural value at some point in history.

In archaeology they are called etiological myths:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_myth

Quote:An origin myth is a myth that purports to describe the origin of some feature of the natural or social world. One type of origin myth is the cosmogonic myth, which describes the creation of the world. However, many cultures have stories set after the cosmogonic myth, which describe the origin of natural phenomena and human institutions within a preexisting universe.

In Western classical scholarship, the terms etiological myth and aition (from the Ancient Greek αἴτιον, "cause") are sometimes used for a myth that explains an origin, particularly how an object or custom came into existence.


You'll forgive me if I have to now spell this out for the jesus-freaks in the room.  What this means is that your stories are bullshit, guys.
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