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What happened to the war on ISIS?
#31
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 24, 2016 at 11:02 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: lol

It saves money. Wink
This recent escapee from TTA forums is on heavy drugs costing $25.000.00 per week. They affect my mind at times. Excuse me if I react out of the norm.
Banjo.
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#32
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 26, 2016 at 7:43 pm)Banjo Wrote:
(September 24, 2016 at 11:02 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: lol

It saves money. Wink

Fiat currency, baby.

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#33
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 24, 2016 at 5:11 am)chimp3 Wrote: No one has ever had the experience of serving 30,000 years in prison. That list of life sentences is for murder and child rape. Cutting off the hand is for theft , correct?

No. The U.K punishes robbery by life imprisonment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery

http://londoncriminalsolicitors.co.uk/theft/robbery/

The west's laws against robbery and theft are far more sever than simply cutting the hand of the robber. Throwing somebody for life (as in England) or for 25 years (as in New York) between mad inmates to rot alive, is far more worse than cutting a hand and let them go/

Also, if things were a little bit darker (like in America, 100 years ago), revolvers would be the sentence; all the time.

Jörmungandr 


No. The whole world was messed up -even long before that-; actually, history is not by your side. Let me proceed:

1-The biggest military invasion in history took place in Normandi; where 1 Million western soldiers from the U.S, Britain and France, invaded the Nazi-controlled beach:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Normandy

2-Comfort Women, were females estimated in thousands, used as sex slaves. The enslavers (to the reader's surprise) weren't Middle Eastern Muslims, but were actually, Japanese imperial soldiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women

3-A European non-Muslim king, was famous for creating FORESTS OF IMPALED PEOPLE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

4-The Mongols weren't from the Middle East; they -the Mongols- rained havoc and death across the world, even to China and Eastern Europe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_inv..._conquests

5-Middle Eastern people didn't make the atomic bomb

Don't misunderstand me. Everywhere is messed up, depending on the time. Once upon a time, having access to Iraq was like getting a Visa to the States or Canada. While living in Europe meant to be taken and get thrown in a battle that has lots of knights waving their axes and long swords.

Or maybe get impaled by vlad or the Ottomans? 

The days turn. That's a sign from God btw.

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I always say: real nationalism would never, ever, go with religionn.
One has to choose between allegiance to "the kingdom of God" or the "Local Constitution".

That's why ancient Christians had the Church.

[url=http://atheistforums.org/user-2808.html]Pandæmonium
 

No. This is the schoolboy non-sense:





I, on the other hand, prefer to use real languages to discuss real issues. I also dislike meth. 

I was born, raised on Middle Eastern soil. Not Just Middle Eastern, but ARAB soil.
So I know the history of this region like the back of my hand. 

No, there was no "Middle East" in the way it looks like now before Sykes-Picot. That's the real history that you should check;Panda.
How did the phrase came to be, how the region was cut like a cake by the hands of the British and the French, 100 years ago.

But Islam dominates such history; that's why I posted the topic in a religious section.

Middle Eastern governments -All of them- are more "Kafir" than you and than non-Muslim. "Mao" and "Lenin" were probably more Muslim than these guys.
They are so non-Muslim, to a degree that makes Richard the lionheart cries in shame.

Visit their prisons to discover that. 

Do you know, that the first thing they torture "islamists" with, is pissing on the Muslim holy books? also, they tear beards -like; pulling them until they come off", and lots of other insults.

What the U.S did in Iraq, was actually practiced everyday by Arab regimes.
Human rights in the west is far more better than the wet hole that the west made in the Ottoman backyard.

I agree with the last line you wrote..literally with every word.

Stimbo 

It's a very nice thing to see Wahhabism backfires at their faces.


Rhythm


When your people forget what "hard work" means, then expect your family to grow as fat as fuck, and die waiting for the next bucket of fries.
That's why China is winning, obviously.

And hey...You yourself are not willing to answer the one question that would end this debate permanently:
"What was the U.S doing in Iraq in 2003"?Please don't say WMDs xD

American economics don't need an expert. Fiat currency, a federal reserve (that is owned by the forbidden word); and hell lots of paper printing that needs war to cover up. From my opinion, it's useless to try to convince you with such fact. A fact that will be shown soon.

BTW, the economic crisis of 2007 was expected an known to come.






So really, Rhythm: what do you know about the "business cycle"? especially that of post-WW2 America?
oh wait wait wait

Conthperith theory..

Cato

lol, every Arab country you see today is a production of Sykes-Picot. Fact.
Do you think there were like...elections??

Chimp3

Such invasion never happens because of a president or a single politician. Even if he played the " look look i'm a clown" card.
Bush the son knew exact;y what he was doing.

He invade iraq based on higher orders; just like after him, obama and clinton bombed Libya.
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#34
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
AtlasS33:

"chimp3 Wrote: No one has ever had the experience of serving 30,000 years in prison. That list of life sentences is for murder and child rape. Cutting off the hand is for theft , correct?
No. The U.K punishes robbery by life imprisonment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery

http://londoncriminalsolicitors.co.uk/theft/robbery/

The west's laws against robbery and theft are far more sever than simply cutting the hand of the robber. Throwing somebody for life (as in England) or for 25 years (as in New York) between mad inmates to rot alive, is far more worse than cutting a hand and let them go/

Also, if things were a little bit darker (like in America, 100 years ago), revolvers would be the sentence; all the time."


I am in agreement that our laws are far too severe at times especially for victimless crimes like drug use. Your reference to darker days in America points out an evolving society, one that used to punish theft with hanging and now debates the death penalty and is legalizing marijuana. You are advocating an iron aged religious doctrine which deters debate.
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#35
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Jörmungandr 

No. The whole world was messed up -even long before that-; actually, history is not by your side. Let me proceed:


None of that is even remotely relevant to what I posted. I should know better than to engage with you. You are thoroughly incoherent.
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#36
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
Sadly, I'm inclined to agree with Jörmungandr. True, the West has not been kind to Arabia - a fact that I bemoan often. However, you well know the Arabs are racists - a fact that you have not hesitated to highlight. For centuries Arabs have treated non-Arabs in the area with contempt. It's not a new phenomenon.


My current book on the Zarathustrians, about their history and beliefs, details how the Umayyads came to Persia - Iran - and made those who didn't convert to this new religion second class citizens. The Jiyzia (poll tax) is incredibly unfair, and not only that there were advantages in the halls of power for those who recited Shahada. The Avestan language was gradually replaced and Fire Temples were destroyed. Indeed, the Arab marauders have a lot to answer for, and I have no doubt they were influenced at least in part by Quran, such as 9:29, which my book duly notes. Although the coverts did manage to keep some of the practices of their old religion.

Some legitimately converted, be it because they looked in awe at the rapid Arab expansion, or because this new religion was not too dissimilar to their own and converting had its advantages. They will have noted the Salat, for example, and how they prayed five times a day too, or the shared monotheism perhaps. We do see many similarities between the teachings of "Muhammad" and Zarathustra, but I won't make a long list here. I've done that before and you get the general idea.


In perhaps a cruel irony, it was Cyrus of Persia, more than likely a Zarathurstrian himself, in his act of kindness in allowing the Jews to return to Israel that the religions of Abraham dominate the world. The Jews were exiled to Babylon and when the Persians came they let the Jews return to Judea and made little, if any, effort to convert them to their own religion of Zarathustra. Cyrus is one of the few non-Jews the Old Testament speaks positively about (somebody please correct me if this is incorrect).

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#37
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. The U.K punishes robbery by life imprisonment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery

http://londoncriminalsolicitors.co.uk/theft/robbery/

The west's laws against robbery and theft are far more sever than simply cutting the hand of the robber. Throwing somebody for life (as in England) or for 25 years (as in New York) between mad inmates to rot alive, is far more worse than cutting a hand and let them go.

Cutting off a hand is not a life sentence then? Grows back does it?

And while the maximum sentence for robbery is life in the UK, firstly that does not actually mean a whole life sentence, which are only given for murder and sexual crime (and even then there needs to be extraordinary circumstances, such as hyper-violence or seriality). Unless a whole life sentence is given, the criminal will be eligible for parole. Secondly, it is rare for robbery sentences to exceed 3 years, unless violence or the threat of violence is involved, or it is a repeated offence. Common theft/burglary/mugging/shoplifting is most likely to result in a fine or a non custodial sentence involving community service.
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#38
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Cato

lol, every Arab country you see today is a production of Sykes-Picot. Fact.
Do you think there were like...elections??

Irrelevant. You obviously missed my point.
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#39
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: When your people forget what "hard work" means, then expect your family to grow as fat as fuck, and die waiting for the next bucket of fries.
That's why China is winning, obviously.
Americans are some of the hardest working people on the planet.  You cvould source this stat for yourself...but I know you won't and don't care to.  So, what;s left.......?

"You're fat!"

Jerkoff

What's China winning, might I ask? The honor of your affection..or something of actual value?

Quote:And hey...You yourself are not willing to answer the one question that would end this debate permanently:
"What was the U.S doing in Iraq in 2003"?Please don't say WMDs xD
Who knows, only way we'd ever find out is with a good war crimes tribunal...but that won;t happen in my lifetime.  It's good to be the king.  

Quote:American economics don't need an expert. Fiat currency, a federal reserve (that is owned by the forbidden word); and hell lots of paper printing that needs war to cover up. From my opinion, it's useless to try to convince you with such fact. A fact that will be shown soon.
You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in the ass, you realize?  Maybe it's just america.  Maybe you're a sane person with thoughtfully considered and rational positions everywhere else.

Quote:BTW, the economic crisis of 2007 was expected an known to come.
You're all over the place.
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#40
RE: What happened to the war on ISIS?
(September 27, 2016 at 5:39 pm)ukatheist Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 11:05 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. The U.K punishes robbery by life imprisonment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbery

http://londoncriminalsolicitors.co.uk/theft/robbery/

The west's laws against robbery and theft are far more sever than simply cutting the hand of the robber. Throwing somebody for life (as in England) or for 25 years (as in New York) between mad inmates to rot alive, is far more worse than cutting a hand and let them go.

Cutting off a hand is not a life sentence then? Grows back does it?

And while the maximum sentence for robbery is life in the UK, firstly that does not actually mean a whole life sentence, which are only given for murder and sexual crime (and even then there needs to be extraordinary circumstances, such as hyper-violence or seriality).  Unless a whole life sentence is given, the criminal will be eligible for parole. Secondly, it is rare for robbery sentences to exceed 3 years, unless violence or the threat of violence is involved, or it is a repeated offence. Common theft/burglary/mugging/shoplifting is most likely to result in a fine or a non custodial sentence involving community service.

Absolutely. I am a UK citizen and I have yet to see anyone get life for robbery and theft. Even the Great Train Robbers got twenty to thirty years and many of them only served about twelve. Hardly life.
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