I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Rhondazvous]

abeyance: what a strange word

It may have been a typo.

Or he may be a graduate of the Drippy school of Misspellology.

[brewer]

It may have been a typo.

Or he may be a graduate of the Drippy school of Misspellology.

I'm a clothset mamber.

[Cyberman]

No, it's a vaild word, but one which I feel our friend heard somewhere and thought would add a veneer of verisimilitude to his credibility.

[Pat Mustard]

That is very good, now I invite the experts in science to prove the existence of the nose in their faces, and redact the proof in writing, that means in clear precise concise words, step by step.

1) Stand up straight
2) Close your eyes
3) Extend both your arms to your sides at right angles to your body.
4) Make fists of both your hands, then straighten out the index finger of your right hand.
5) While keeping your left arm extended, bend your right arm in such a way as the index finger of your right hand touches your nose. You're allowed to look if it is too hard.

By engaging in this experiment you have just helped me prove the existence of your nose scientifically.

[Rhondazvous]

I'm a clothset mamber.

Which denomination?
Tommy Hillfiger?
Vidal Sassoon?
The Church of God in Levis?

[Asmodee]

Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.

OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.

Edit: Oops, I almost forgot: god is man made. According to your words (and assuming your are human): "God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."

Sounds man made to me, not god made.

Now there is a concept of a god I can't find any issues with.  Let's go through each thing and see what is right or wrong with it.

God is magic - well, OBVIOUSLY!  I've never heard of a god playing D&D in his mom's basement.  I've never heard of a god doing anything "ordinary".  So this is pretty much standard for being "a god".

God is fantasy - that one is certainly undisprovable, the defacto standard for a particular god being real!  There is even plenty of evidence for it since there are thousands of god and each and every one seems to always agree EXACTLY with what his follower believes and desires to be true.

God is delusion - there certainly has been some proof of this.  Children dying because praying didn't cure simple diseases, snake handlers dying of snake bites, the Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate...there is a rather long list of evidences to support this.

God is excuse - Jihad.  Enough said.

God is an escape - people use any given god to escape reality every day.  That is, unless you believe both that you will be reincarnated according to how good you are AND eventually also go to Heaven.  But then you still have to deal with all the people who believe only one of those things and not both.

God is manipulation - we covered that with the cults.

God is illogic - see the OP of this thread.

God is non-factual - ask anyone who believes in a god a really tough question and more likely than not they will have an answer, no matter what the question, no batter if they had never before considered it, no matter that their particular source of "knowledge" says nothing about the subject.  You know what that means?  THEY'RE MAKING IT UP!

God is untrue - again we have an undisprovable god-claim, and if you can't prove it wrong then it's right by default!  Then there is also this little thought; every claim ever made about a god at any point in time has either been A) not be proved to be true or B) proved to be not true.  It may be "undisprovable", but that doesn't mean there isn't evidence to support it.

God is anecdotal - I seem to remember a quote recently about "spiritual evidence" in place of, you know, ACTUAL evidence.  That pretty much sums this one up.

God is man made - nobody denies at least most gods are.  So, once again, every god for which there is total agreement is known to have been man made.  On top of that, most would agree that at least MOST gods are man made.  Many would agree that at least ALL BUT ONE god is man made, but they can't agree on which god isn't.  While not evidence of truth, it is pretty suggestive of truth.

So yeah, just tell me what religion you are and that's what I am from here on out (please be atheist, please be atheist, please be atheist...hey, nothing wrong with the god you choose agreeing with you 100%, right?)

[Rhondazvous]

No, it's a vaild word, but one which I feel our friend heard somewhere and thought would add a veneer of verisimilitude to his credibility.

So he graduated soon come lordy from the Drippy School of verisimilitudology.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Anyway, there are several atheists reacting to my posts, but when one of you will link up with me to take up an issue you want to take up with me, please let me know; otherwise it is useless because the link is not pursued to completion, i.e. up to concurrence between us two, or on also if need be, concurrence that we have come to any impasse, and also with the concurrence that there is an impasse because both parties have their reasons and neither side would concede, so there is an impasse.

No, it's not an impasse. You cannot logic anything into existence, first off.

Secondly, I've got better things to do than bandy words with someone about their beliefs when their goal is "victory" rather than discussion ... especially when they will claim "victory" no matter what is said.

Thirdly, if your thoughts are robust, they'll stand up to a multiparty discussion with points coming from across the spectrum. You should perhaps ask yourself why you feel the need to restrict this discussion to one member alone.

No, at this point in time, 05:10 a.m. October 26, 2016, Wednesday (eight hours in advance of Greenwich), no atheist has come up yet to tell me that he wants to interact with me, but I will continue to monitor here, until of course when I have to go to my daily chores at home, and also eventually take leave of this forum to get busy with making a living, at least until I find time to check in to see whether any atheists at all have taken up to link with me on any issue we will agree to exchange thoughts on - even in the course of making a living or having a life, outside of internet forums.

Well, I for one will be holding my breath in anxious anticipation.

No, wait -- I won't.

Now go clean that bathroom, it's a bloody mess.

[brewer]

I'm a clothset mamber.

Which denomination?
Tommy Hillfiger?
Vidal Sassoon?
The Church of God in Levis?

Justa  chronic miss spellir.

[Ben Davis]

No, at this point in time, 05:10 a.m. October 26, 2016, Wednesday (eight hours in advance of Greenwich), no atheist has come up yet to tell me that he wants to interact with me...

Don't I count