I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Thumpalumpacus]

For the rest of posters here who maintain that they don't have any information of the concept of God, since they are atheists, meaning if I am correct, they deny the existence of God, gods, goddesses, deities, divinities, etc., please just choose one of them to give me the information of this one you choose to deny existence to; of course there are many of them according to your self-description of being an atheist, i.e. denying the existence of God, gods, etc.; you see unless you bring up one for us to discuss on whether any God, gods, etc., at all exist, forgive me but it is irrational to keep on insisting that you don't need to have any information of God, gods, etc.

Well, you're the one proclaiming your god exists. Why should I argue against, say, Vishnu when you're do afraid to stand up for your own deity of choice or programming?

If you come in here looking for a discussion and refuse to pick the ground over which you fight, you shouldn't be surprised when no one takes you seriously.

You believe in a god. You want to discuss that belief.

Maybe you should say something about what you really believe, as a Protestant, rather than this namby-pamby bullshit. You appear afraid to actually stake out a point, and I don't think you want to do so. I think you just want to shit and giggle.

Feel free to show me wrong with a little substance.

I won't hold my breath.

[brewer]

Thanks everyone for your presence and contribution to my thread, there are a lot of you, it's by way of hyperbole a tsunami.

• mh.brewer Wrote:Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.

I have presented God to exist by my OP, please just scroll to post #1, that's easy to do; I dare not reproduce it here again, it can and that has happened already, get filtered out by the spam detector machine here.

Please forgive me, but for dry humor, suppose you prove your concept of God or god above, to be existing in objective reality outside your concept of God or god, because you have found an entity corresponding in objective reality of existence outside your concept of God or gods, etc., corresponding to your concept.

Can't formulate an intelligent reply, can't even find the reply button even though requested to use it. Can't count backwards. Can you tell us what else you can't do so we know what to expect? For instance, anything over the age of 10 yrs. You really are a simple life form. 

god only exists in mans mind, that is the whole point you seem to be ignorantly missing. 

Magic: Magic happens in the bible, i.e. pillar of salt, proof of magic. 
Fantasy: because god can not be produced in reality, Please tell me where to go touch/sense/positively identify god.
Delusion: god exists only in the concept of the mind.

I'll start with those three. Maybe we'll expand to the rest when you refuse to adequately reply. 

If god is a concept, does god exist without the ability to mentally conceive of god?

[Simon Moon]

Thanks everyone for your presence and contribution to my thread, there are a lot of you, it's by way of hyperbole a tsunami.

• mh.brewer Wrote:Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.

I have presented God to exist by my OP, please just scroll to post #1, that's easy to do; I dare not reproduce it here again, it can and that has happened already, get filtered out by the spam detector machine here.

Please forgive me, but for dry humor, suppose you prove your concept of God or god above, to be existing in objective reality outside your concept of God or god, because you have found an entity corresponding in objective reality of existence outside your concept of God or gods, etc., corresponding to your concept.

I have been giving you the benefit of the doubt up until now, that you are not a troll. But you have just convinced that you are.

We have ALL referred back to your OP on multiple occasions, refuting everyone of your arguments several times over. Yet, you have not responded to a singe one of our refutations.

You might not even be a troll, but maybe a bot.

Either way, please respond to our multiple refutations of your 'proof' in your OP, or better yet, just go away.

[Mariosep]

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Dear colleagues here, I fear that this thread could be locked up when the posts here are getting into irrelevancies and flippancies.

So, as Asmodee has not yet reported here, I will pursue my purpose here which is to get your comments on my proof for the existence of God.


May I request that we all take up with an academic mood by which if we were in an academic environment we would take care to think as to deliver our thoughts without showing signs of irrelevancies and flippancies - that is a most enticing temptation afforded by the anonymity of the internet.


So, may I request that we go into the work to think up what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality of existence outside of concepts in our mind, and independent of our mind?

First, for myself, even to prove the existence of the nose in our face is difficult already, though everyone with a nose, that includes everyone here I dare presume, knows for a certainty that the nose exists in our face; still to think on how to prove it with concepts and words and statements made up of words and redact that all in clear concise and precise language, that is not a simple and quick act.

Anyway, will you concur with me that in the case of things like the nose in our face, the best and most reliable proof consists in you and me touching each one our respective nose and then the nose of everyone else?

At this point there will always be someone who insists that he is not sure he exists in objective reality of existence, much less his nose if any at all, how do we dare with him?

[Simon Moon]

For the rest of posters here who maintain that they don't have any information of the concept of God, since they are atheists, meaning if I am correct, they deny the existence of God, gods, goddesses, deities, divinities, etc., please just choose one of them to give me the information of this one you choose to deny existence to; of course there are many of them according to your self-description of being an atheist, i.e. denying the existence of God, gods, etc.; you see unless you bring up one for us to discuss on whether any God, gods, etc., at all exist, forgive me but it is irrational to keep on insisting that you don't need to have any information of God, gods, etc.

Well, you're the one proclaiming your god exists. Why should I argue against, say, Vishnu when you're do afraid to stand up for your own deity of choice or programming?

If you come in here looking for a discussion and refuse to pick the ground over which you fight, you shouldn't be surprised when no one takes you seriously.

You believe in a god. You want to discuss that belief.

Maybe you should say something about what you really believe, as a Protestant, rather than this namby-pamby bullshit. You appear afrais to actually stake out a point, and I don't think you want to do so. I think you just want to shit and giggle.

Feel free to show me wrong with a little substance.

I won't hold my breath.

And.... there it is again.

A simple request, that has been ignored several times by Mario.


It's almost as if he doesn't understand how this 'logicy' 'debaty' stuff works.

[Thumpalumpacus]

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Dear colleagues here, I fear that this thread could be locked up when the posts here are getting into irrelevancies and flippancies.

So, as Asmodee has not yet reported here, I will pursue my purpose here which is to get your comments on my proof for the existence of God.


May I request that we all take up with an academic mood by which if we were in an academic environment we would take care to think as to deliver our thoughts without showing signs of irrelevancies and flippancies - that is a most enticing temptation afforded by the anonymity of the internet.


So, may I request that we go into the work to think up what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality of existence outside of concepts in our mind, and independent of our mind?

First, for myself, even to prove the existence of the nose in our face is difficult already, though everyone with a nose, that includes everyone here I dare presume, knows for a certainty that the nose exists in our face; still to think on how to prove it with concepts and words and statements made up of words and redact that all in clear concise and precise language, that is not a simple and quick act.

Anyway, will you concur with me that in the case of things like the nose in our face, the best and most reliable proof consists in you and me touching each one our respective nose and then the nose of everyone else?

At this point there will always be someone who insists that he is not sure he exists in objective reality of existence, much less his nose if any at all, how do we dare with him?

You've been asked some questions.

Answer them, or lose audience.

<setting the stopwatch>

[Jesster]

Yeah, I figured he might be a troll. I'm glad I stopped giving him any credit a while ago.

[Primordial Bisque]

Thanks everyone for your presence and contribution to my thread, there are a lot of you, it's by way of hyperbole a tsunami.

• mh.brewer Wrote:Let's see, my concept of god: god is magic, god is fantasy, god is delusion, god is an excuse, god is an escape, god is a manipulation, god is illogic, god is non factual, god is untrue, god is anecdotal.OK, your turn Mario, prove me wrong.

I have presented God to exist by my OP, please just scroll to post #1, that's easy to do; I dare not reproduce it here again, it can and that has happened already, get filtered out by the spam detector machine here.

Please forgive me, but for dry humor, suppose you prove your concept of God or god above, to be existing in objective reality outside your concept of God or god, because you have found an entity corresponding in objective reality of existence outside your concept of God or gods, etc., corresponding to your concept.

You want my concept of God? Sure, here it is:







Thanks for reading.

[Mariosep]

Dear colleagues here, please try to see that I am all the time trying to get us to agree on something at all, but I see you to not want to work at all to agree with me on something at all: so that we can get going for having already a common ground.

I tried first with the information on the concept of God, which I think any Westerner educated know what is God in regard to the common information, and even Japanese who are not Christians, even their children who know English, when asked what they know about God, they answer, He is the one Who did everything that exists which is not Himself.

That endeavor by me did not work to get us starting with you to see why at all you should concur with me on the information of God which I proffer; in its place you say many things which will lead us into endless digressions.

I even refer you to the Finnish Dictionary of Atheism, for you to get information what is the concept of God, the most fundamental generic concept, but I guess you have not consulted that dcitionary.

Now, I am if you take care to notice, I am into at least getting us you and me, to work as to concur on what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind, or in brief outside of our mind.

Am I getting somewhere with this latest endeavor?

I have not seen anyone yet going into this direction, at this point in time, but let me read the posts I have just read but quickly, to see if I missed someone who also like me tries to figure out what it is to prove, for example, something as simple as the existence of the nose in our face - please wait I will be back.


[ Gone for some minutes but now back. ]

This is the post #204 where I gave the suggestion for us to work together as to come to concurrence on what it is to prove something to exist, like the simple nose in our face.

I guess it is still too early for you posters to figure out what to and how to reply or react to the post concerned.


http://atheistforums.org/thread-45866-po...pid1426743

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It is now in my location as I write this post, 11:10 a.m., Thursday, October 2016.


Dear colleagues here, please think of something you want me to work or us to work on as to concur on, something from you, but just keep track of the title of the thread, "I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?"

No, I will not now be the one to propose something for us to work on to come to concurrence, so that we will have something in common to get started on with the thread.

It is instead I am proposing that you now, you be the ones to propose something you want us to work together on as to come to concurrence, so that on that common ground we can get started on the thread.

[LadyForCamus]

Dear colleagues here, please try to see that I am all the time trying to get us to agree on something at all, but I see you to not want to work at all to agree with me on something at all: so that we can get going for having already a common ground.

I tried first with the information on the concept of God, which I think any Westerner educated know what is God in regard to the common information, and even Japanese who are not Christians, even their children who know English, when asked what they know about God, they answer, He is the one Who did everything that exists which is not Himself.

That endeavor by me did not work to get us starting with you to see why at all you should concur with me on the information of God which I proffer; in its place you say many things which will lead us into endless digressions.

I even refer you to the Finnish Dictionary of Atheism, for you to get information what is the concept of God, the most fundamental generic concept, but I guess you have not consulted that dcitionary.

Now, I am if you take care to notice, I am into at least getting us you and me, to work as to concur on what it is to prove that something exists in objective reality outside of concepts in our mind, or in brief outside of our mind.

Am I getting somewhere with this latest endeavor?

I have not seen anyone yet going into this direction, at this point in time, but let me read the posts I have just read but quickly, to see if I missed someone who also like me tries to figure out what it is to prove, for example, something as simple as the existence of the nose in our face - please wait I will be back.


[ Gone for some minutes but now back. ]

This is the post #204 where I gave the suggestion for us to work together as to come to concurrence on what it is to prove something to exist, like the simple nose in our face.

I guess it is still too early for you posters to figure out what to and how to reply or react to the post concerned.


http://atheistforums.org/thread-45866-po...pid1426743

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It is now in my location as I write this post, 11:10 a.m., Thursday, October 2016.


Dear colleagues here, please think of something you want me to work or us to work on as to concur on, something from you, but just keep track of the title of the thread, "I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?"

No, I will not now be the one to propose something for us to work on to come to concurrence, so that we will have something in common to get started on with the thread.

It is instead I am proposing that you now, you be the ones to propose something you want us to work together on as to come to concurrence, so that on that common ground we can get started on the thread.

I would like you to demonstrate that the god you believe in exists. Or go away.