I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

[Astreja]

"God" would have also needed to exist prior to existence in order to create...existence.

And "God" could not have created matter/energy, because creating something would require an input of energy.  Creation ex nihilo is a contradiction in terms.

[Astreja]

Here is an experiment, tell me atheists what is your information on the concept of God as known with certainty by one Mariosep?

I think that your "certainty" is just wishful thinking on your part, and that your god is fictional.

[Primordial Bisque]

"God" would have also needed to exist prior to existence in order to create...existence.

And "God" could not have created matter/energy, because creating something would require an input of energy.  Creation ex nihilo is a contradiction in terms.

And to think; that's the same supposed being that created the laws of logic; namely the Law of Non-Contradiction.

[Edwardo Piet]

There is no such thing as God. "God" is defined to be superior to reality and since that's impossible God's existence is also impossible.

"God" would have also needed to exist prior to existence in order to create...existence.

Which is logically impossible and therefore impossible in every sense.

[Primordial Bisque]

"God" would have also needed to exist prior to existence in order to create...existence.

Which is logically impossible and therefore impossible in every sense.

All things are impossible with god, my brother!

[Mariosep]

Dear Simon, I am telling you about the distinction between thinking in our mind and going forward into the reality of existence outside our mind: to search for instances of things thought about in our mind.

For example, I give the concept in my mind of God as [in concept] first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


As you read my concept of God, you have already the information of what is God like, from my part; so we can already proceed to look up in the objective reality of existence outside our mind, to search for all instances of causation, because in every instance of causation there is the cause and the effect, and that is evidence for the existence of the entity corresponding to the concept in my mind of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

I can't speak for all atheists, but my atheism is a provisional position, not a dogmatic one. As soon as the case for the existence of a god, or gods, meets its burden of proof, I will no longer be an atheist.

But your flawed 'proof' does not even get close.

[Cyberman]

So... your response to the complaint that you repeat yourself is to... quote your inital post again?

[Whateverist]

So... your response to the complaint that you repeat yourself is to... quote your inital post again?

I am so underwhelmed.

[Whateverist]

And "God" could not have created matter/energy, because creating something would require an input of energy.  Creation ex nihilo is a contradiction in terms.

And to think; that's the same supposed being that created the laws of logic; namely the Law of Non-Contradiction.

But how could the Law of Non-Contradiction reign supreme if there were not a god of Non-Contradiction to enforce it.  Hmmm.

[Primordial Bisque]

I give the concept in my mind of God as [in concept] first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.


As you read my concept of God, you have already the information of what is God like, from my part; so we can already proceed to look up in the objective reality of existence outside our mind, to search for all instances of causation, because in every instance of causation there is the cause and the effect, and that is evidence for the existence of the entity corresponding to the concept in my mind of God, in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.