Do people hate the actual belief in God, or just the religious organizations?

[Whateverist]

I don't remember a member named "the illuminati". Hah! You just ratted yourself out.

[Ravenshire]

I don't hate belief in a gawd. That would be as dumb as hating a belief in fairies, elves or unicorns. Nor do I hate the religions. It's hard to hate a list of rules. I also do not hate the believers either for their belief nor for their particular flavor of belief. What I do hate, is having it shoved in my face. Billboards, crosses, street preaching, attempts at legislating religious beliefs... And, the hate-mongers. The poison preachers who prey on the weak minded/weak willed. The buffoons who preach gawds retribution in natural events. The sad, pathetic, greedy mother fuckers who sucker the foolish with promises of wealth through "the glory of gawed" (only after receiving a non-refundable donation).

In short, I hate the snake oil salesmen, not the snake oil or the customers.

[goombah111]

 Yet somehow we expect an omnipotent god to be incorruptible, somehow.

i agree on everything else, but yeah i would expect the idea of god to be incorruptible. it is technically a fairy tale after all.

Umm...I don't hate either. I think the believe in God can be damaging especially if indoctrinated in a particularly negative way. But I also think it can be healthy if done in a positive way. Believing in a higher power makes some people happier healthier people. Same with religion, some aspects of organized religion are really great and some are really terrible. Some organizations are overall really good and some are overall really harmful.

I don't believe in god. I don't know of any religious organization I'd be willing to be a member of. But I don't care what other people believe or join.

thats what i like to hear. taoism is a good way to live that has nothing to do with a god so you might find some nice insight there. buddhism and confusionism too. even the bible, kaballah, and quaran have alot of positive ideas that can be extracted.

 i suggest nobody be born into a religion, rather read up on religion after they are smart enough to decipher good and evil.

My belief is that irrelevant of happiness or detriment,  we ought to strive to find the truth and follow it.  That said,  if someone doesn't do a test and get's a zero for no answers,  that is worse then a person who does the test and get's a lot of answers right but some answers wrong. 

I see religions as attempts to answer questions to who we are as humans.  I feel people with no religion have settled for no enlightened answer out there. I respect the idea that people with answer wrong answers mixed with right answers in a form of false religions more then people saying there are no answers out there.

That said,  I think we humans are at loss over time,  if we don't find out inner truth and purpose, and believe in it, and act according to it.

I was happier without religion, but there is no escaping the reasoning that has led me back to it,  and I am however more fulfilled and feel I have greater purpose and stronger foundation with religion.

wow, this is actually profound. i must admit, i dont see a lot of theists with good arguments. i like your analogy as well.

there is definitely no beating that feeling of wonder. i dont think our excess imagination and belief is a misstep in evolution but rather a step forward. we trained our brains to accomplish so much, but we have ignored an important aspect that makes humans so amazing.

[Angrboda]

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”

― Daniel J. Boorstin

[Thumpalumpacus]

[...] so you might find some nice insight there. buddhism and confusionism too.

This has got to be my favorite typo/misspelling of the year. Classic!

[goombah111]

 
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”

― Daniel J. Boorstin

agreed, people who claim to know piss me off. both sides have these people but theists definitely take the cake with their blind faith.

[...]  so you might find some nice insight there. buddhism and confusionism too.

This has got to be my favorite typo/misspelling of the year. Classic!

haha i never knew how it was spelled. still dont. punny

[Thumpalumpacus]

This has got to be my favorite typo/misspelling of the year. Classic!

haha i never knew how it was spelled. still dont. punny

Confucianism will get you the apple here. I appreciate the laugh all the same, bud.

[Whateverist]

or both?

i see people say "religion ruins everything" so that would point to the organizations and scriptures

i also see people say "youre dumb if you believe in god"

so, what do people hate? or at least, what do people have the most issue with?

I just enjoy hating.  Best not to poke around and let the air out on that for me.

[Excited Penguin]

Umm...I don't hate either. I think the belief in God can be damaging especially if indoctrinated in a particularly negative way. But I also think it can be healthy if done in a positive way. Believing in a higher power makes some people happier healthier people. Same with religion, some aspects of organized religion are really great and some are really terrible. Some organizations are overall really good and some are overall really harmful.

I don't believe in god. I don't know of any religious organization I'd be willing to be a member of. But I don't care what other people believe or join.

What do you mean you don't care , anyway ? That you wouldn't try to outlaw religion or that you are actually nonplussed by the fact that so many people believe false things about the world and get their moralities from ancient death cults ?

Strictly speaking, both are immoral positions to hold, IMO, but one more defensible than the other. If I had the power I would destroy most of organized religion and not think twice about it, starting with the Catholic Church with its crimes against humanity(can't describe them otherwise).

[Homeless Nutter]