Free interpretation of the Genesis 3:5 KJV

[SofaKingHigh]

That's not a bad deal as it happens, the last interpretation I had of Genesis was seriously fucking expensive.

[Jackalope]

How fortunate we are to have to have such an excellent bullshit translator.

[Whateverist]

For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

 

Ignoring the will of the Supreme Being, the human decides himself what is true to him and what is false to him. He becomes as the omniscient god. The false god, with false omnisciency.

There are many false gods in the Psychiatric Clinics. The patient believes, what his fantasies and convictions are the objective reality (because any nonsense a "false god" thinks, is the false Reality), and he insults the True Christians, insults his sane doctors.

The false atheist does not believe in own divinity for the same reason: he is the false god. A god can do and can think what ever He wants: the opinion of a god is the objective reality... as the delusion of this false god.

The "false atheist" is ready to lie to my face: "it is nonsense", "your brain is broken", "ban the idiot", if my proof tells him unpleasant things (like the eternal hell-fire). Correct?

But remember the Film: "hard to be a god"!

So, the True Atheists shall invent a text 10--1000 words long, which will convinced a false atheist? Laugh out load Would a philosophical article 10--1000 words long convert you to True Atheism? Is it possible? Are you open to the philosophical proofs?

ABOUT THE HELL:

Prior to Creation there was no time. Nobody can expect such craziness as a sin, because the crazy satan (the possessed joker in the Batman movies) is the author of any sin (so, the sinners are under the copyright terms). So, the Creator has created the Universe without any plan to create the hell.

Atheist: nobody deserves eternal punishment for anything.

How selfish! Any convinced criminal says "I am innocent", or "the punishment is too cruel!" But the True Atheists are thinking about the survival of the humankind:

the existence of hell and the preachings of hell greatly improve the crime statistics.

Atheist: If the threat of hell is so good at reducing crime then why do the numbers of criminals by religion not show that?

Because the false atheists are successfully destroying our spiritual weapon - the fear of the hell. This destruction was not so active just some decades ago.

The false theists do consider themselves as the "holy" ones: "once is saved, then saved forever." Therefore, they are more likely to commit a new sin. After that they just would say in their bedroom: "Jesus, forgive me my murder." Because they are false theists.

Here is the reason of the strange statistics: the preaches do no preach the Hell out of you:
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/artic...ns-on-hell


FROM DISCUSSION:

Atheist: Who created theSatan if not theCreator? And if theCreator created theUniverse without a plan to create theHell what does that say about theCreator’s omniscience? TheBatman has a higher claim on theReality than theBorg and its fantasies.

The divine omniscience is not magical. The omniscience is connected to the omnipresence. The Creator has created the good angel Lucifer. Then the Lucifer has invented the sin, and became the satan. See the parable: the mother of Adolf Hitler has not murdered the Jews.

Atheist: So, what was north of the north pole again?

Suppose a clock is showing 10.00.
Suppose the Creation was at 9.00. So, one is sure, what this clock has never shown the 8.00. The 8.00 is prior to Creation. Capisce?

All are True God's slaves. Even the rebellious satan. But even the rebellion will run out. It is act of the freewill: "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:10,11 KJV

The satan is crazy, because the satan has rejected the Holy Trinity.
Am I crazy too? Prove this! Nobody is crazy, until the opposite is proven. Prove us, what I have rejected the Jesus Christ, then we all would know, what I am crazy.

Atheist: A person lost in a miasma of deception.

So, no person is here. This is philosophy of any mass-murderer. Such evil people must burn in hell for ever. Laugh out load Correct, dear friend?
In fact, the false atheism causes the total solipsism. Let us debunk the solipsism. If I am having no brain, then what is writing? Is it my soul?

THE END

You are obviously able to keep up both sides of the conversation all by yourself.  So why do you come here?  No one here recognizes the words you put in your false atheist's mouth.  So nothing you say concerns me.  Have a nice conversation .. with yourself.

[Funky_Gibbon]

I'd disagree... I like W.H. Auden on Hell... which is ironically a lot closer to the Eastern Orthodox interpretation of is as I understand it.

"Criminal laws are laws-for, imposed on, with or without their consent... IF God created man, then the laws of spiritual nature must, like the laws of physical nature, be laws-of, laws, that is to say, which one is free to DEFY but not to BREAK, anymore than one is free to "break" the law of gravity by jumping out the window..."

To state the laws of God in the imperative "Thou Shalt! Thou Shalt Not!" - is simply a pedagogical technique... as when a mother says "Stay away from that window!" because the child does not know what shall happen when he falls out of it.

In the case of physical laws we learn very soon the painful consequences of defying them. A broken leg for trying to defy gravity. But in the case of spiritual laws, where the consequences of breaking them are not immediately perceptible to the senses and take effect only gradually, we are all too inclined to behave as if we know better.

Since God has given us the freedom to either accept His love and obey them the laws of our created nature or reject it and defy them, He cannot prevent us from going to Hell and staying there if that is what we insist upon.

All sins tend towards the addictive and the terminal point of addiction is what is called damnation."

~ Not word for word, but the jist of a good section on Hell from W.H. Auden's work " A Certain World".

[Minimalist]

Borgy is flaring up again. Do we have any ointment for that?

[vorlon13]

[Athene]

Ahh...Borg, my friend. How good it is to see you!

You are well, yes?

[Fireball]

He got his ass handed to him badly over at TTA. He's probably off licking his wounds.

[Whateverist]

Hahahahahahahahahah.  GOOD ONE!

"Free interpretation of the Genesis 3:5 KJV" as if anyone would pay to hear what you think of it.

[RiddledWithFear]

Atheist: nobody deserves eternal punishment for anything.

How selfish! Any convinced criminal says "I am innocent", or "the punishment is too cruel!" But the True Atheists are thinking about the survival of the humankind:

the existence of hell and the preachings of hell greatly improve the crime statistics.

I've never met one atheist/agnostic non-theist/skeptic/apatheist/ignostic that has stated this. Most of us, besides nihilists, have morals.

Atheist: If the threat of hell is so good at reducing crime then why do the numbers of criminals by religion not show that?

Because the false atheists are successfully destroying our spiritual weapon - the fear of the hell. This destruction was not so active just some decades ago.

The false theists do consider themselves as the "holy" ones: "once is saved, then saved forever." Therefore, they are more likely to commit a new sin. After that they just would say in their bedroom: "Jesus, forgive me my murder." Because they are false theists.

"False atheists?" Is that some kind of insult? I don't see the point in that. If they identify as non-theist, they most likely are. If they not, they just want attention, which goes against the morals of Christianity. 

Atheist: Who created theSatan if not theCreator? And if theCreator created theUniverse without a plan to create theHell what does that say about theCreator’s omniscience? TheBatman has a higher claim on theReality than theBorg and its fantasies.

The divine omniscience is not magical. The omniscience is connected to the omnipresence. The Creator has created the good angel Lucifer. Then the Lucifer has invented the sin, and became the satan. See the parable: the mother of Adolf Hitler has not murdered the Jews. 

Again, what does that say about His omniscience? If He created good in which turned to evil, and did not know it, then He's not omniscient. If He did know, why did He create them in the first place? So that His plan could come to fruition? Well, the plan hasn't worked so well, has it? People die every day with no chance of believing. You're telling Me that He knew this was going to happen, and was fine with it, so He created a plan that only partially worked? "How selfish!"

How could the parable work? The mother of Hitler was not omniscient.

Atheist: So, what was north of the north pole again?

Suppose a clock is showing 10.00.
Suppose the Creation was at 9.00. So, one is sure, what this clock has never shown the 8.00. The 8.00 is prior to Creation. Capisce?

All are True God's slaves. Even the rebellious satan. But even the rebellion will run out. It is act of the freewill: "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:10,11 KJV

The satan is crazy, because the satan has rejected the Holy Trinity.
Am I crazy too? Prove this! Nobody is crazy, until the opposite is proven. Prove us, what I have rejected the Jesus Christ, then we all would know, what I am crazy. 

What's the point in adding this? Sure, I concur that we cannot know. However, that does not give an excuse to therefor say, "Cannot know, therefor God." That seems a bit crazy to me.

Atheist: A person lost in a miasma of deception.

So, no person is here. This is philosophy of any mass-murderer. Such evil people must burn in hell for ever. Laugh out load Correct, dear friend?
In fact, the false atheism causes the total solipsism. Let us debunk the solipsism. If I am having no brain, then what is writing? Is it my soul?

"Philosophy" of a murderer? That literally makes no sense when put in the context you've given.

You remind me of one of those Westboro Baptist Church fellows. The epitome of fanaticism.