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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm
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(November 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Edward John Wrote: We're not discussing books. I am not preaching any gospel. We're talking about gods. Leave the herrings alone. You asked how much evidence it would take for us to believe in "God". I'm reversing the quesion. What evidence would it take for you to believe I am God?
If you was Jesus.
My being Jesus would be the claim. What evidence would you accept for that claim?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 3:55 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Edward John Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Well then...
Have fun with that tantrum, kid.
Did you know that science clearly evidences that the earth is thousands and not millions of years old?
Right... right.... like all those rocks radiologically dated to be some 4 billion of years old.... matching rocks brought back from the moon.
Which "science" is this you speak of?
Do tell me.. I'm curious, now...
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 3:56 pm
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(November 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If you was Jesus.
My being Jesus would be the claim. What evidence would you accept for that claim? The question is a silly question in of itself.
If you are God guess what I am thinking?
[*]We know you're just a person
[*]Your not in the Bible
[*]You have no powers
[*]I could go on
(November 13, 2016 at 3:55 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Edward John Wrote: Did you know that science clearly evidences that the earth is thousands and not millions of years old?
Right... right.... like all those rocks radiologically dated to be some 4 billion of years old.... matching rocks brought back from the moon.
Which "science" is this you speak of?
Do tell me.. I'm curious, now...
Radiometric dating is made up on assumptions.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:06 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Edward John Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:55 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Right... right.... like all those rocks radiologically dated to be some 4 billion of years old.... matching rocks brought back from the moon.
Which "science" is this you speak of?
Do tell me.. I'm curious, now...
[*]
Radiometric dating is made up on assumptions.
No answer, then... huh?
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:07 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 3:36 pm)Aegon Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:30 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Have you considered a panentheistic Infinite God that creates a finite space within itself, unfolding all latent qualities within that space as an ordered whole (a lawful universe), and remains outside finite that finite space as the original infinite union?
What do you think you know about the Big Bang?
No because I'm too dumb to comprehend what you just said.
I know that there is no sufficient evidence for the cause of the Big Bang. And that a God like being deciding to become the universe would fit with the laws of the conservation of energy.
It's fairly simple, old concept: Imagine God as an endless field of unified "white" light. Inside this ocean of light (there is no outside) a finite bubble/sphere of space is yanked open. In equal opposite reaction, the individual colors are separated and put into motion inside that bubble. That is like the ordered finite universe with differentiated phenomenon and forces, from a unified state/God.... which still exists as that unification, outside the borders of the universe. A universe is like a bubble of black space and whirling color inside a sea of blinding white light. Look up the Ain Soph Aur and the Tzimtzum.
Because the original unified state (of matter and energy) is both infinite and one, it's quantum expression (wave-form) lofts infinite individuated spaces all at the same instant. This appears as a plane of equal sized sphere's (universes) that creates an infinite horizontal plane. A new plane is created every instant as a cavitational wave-front travels through an infinite solid (Fermi Liquid) body, leaving planes of identical universes in it's wave. It will never stop.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:09 pm
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(November 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If you was Jesus.
My being Jesus would be the claim. What evidence would you accept for that claim?
Well for startz, iz you white bruv, innit? Like da real Jesus ™ iz innit?
Also, mate, do you iz 'avin' a rant every day 'bout dem nasty Jew buggers an' 'ow they killed you innit bruv innit? Come on, you gotz t' admit that kin'a stuff man. I mean, you not gonna 'av me judgin' yaz if youse Jesus are ya now bruv?
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:09 pm
It's a simple concept alright, even if it's not old. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:13 pm
(November 13, 2016 at 4:06 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (November 13, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Edward John Wrote: [*]
Radiometric dating is made up on assumptions. [*]
No answer, then... huh? [*]
All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that happened in the past. If the assumptions are accepted as true (as is typically done in the evolutionary dating processes), results can be biased toward a desired age. In the reported ages given in textbooks and other journals, these evolutionary assumptions have not been questioned, while results inconsistent with long ages have been censored. Therefore completely useless.
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:14 pm
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Evolutionary "assumptions" are -constantly- questioned...it is their resilience to criticism and attempts to demonstrate that they are flawed that has granted them the status of theory, as opposed to hypothesis.
L2science.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???
November 13, 2016 at 4:15 pm
Quote:Then consider this. What evidence would it take for you to believe that I am God?
Kill yourself. Slit your throat with a big knife and come back from the dead.
BTW, we would want a physician to certify that you were dead. You have three days to manage it.
Don't forget to film it for youtube.
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