So beautiful. And so he loves beauty too.

[purplepurpose]

I noticed that theist take such Grand objectives, that pretty soon their agony get so strong, that trying to "fuck" the minds of other people becomes one of the few joys they have left.

Atlas, if you decided to "fuck" your mind in order to get to heaven, do so if you wish, but could you keep this acidic shit to yourself?

I personally, don't see a point in this voluntary, light "self-inflicted mind torture with the fear of hell". You say "You will go to heaven! If you endure!". I say "Fuck this divine business".

[chimp3]

I am reading a book right now that details the sexual behavior of chimpanzees. Submission plays a large role in their social lives. If you must be submissive AtlasS33 go right ahead. It is only natural. Myself , I will choose a different object of veneration.

[Chad32]

Christianity is about 2,000 years old, and islam is younger than that. How exactly is islam an ancient religion?

[Mr Greene]

I'll consider your proposal over a bacon bap and beer. Though surrender isn't something my family is known for...

[WinterHold]

[Tonus]

Tonus

Again; you mistake his service with the service of humans. He is not an invasion force that wants to enslave you; instead think about gravity for example: if you disobey the gravitational force you perish.

Though; if you refuse to study it and accept it; you will be a savage. Even animals know better; cats don't jump from mountains.
So refusing him is refusing a fact. Refusing a fact is known as "denial"; and denial of the cold makes us sick; denial of gravity makes us fall to break our teeth...denying God makes us burn in hell.

You said that we surrender with every breath we take. I pointed out how convenient that argument is, and in response you claim that it's possible to deny him. I'm a bit confused here-- do I surrender to god with each breath I take, or am I able to deny him?

[Cyberman]

Our friend has dropped a metric shit-tonne of unfounded assertions, as usual, but this little nugget is pure gold:

He is not an invasion force that wants to enslave you; instead think about gravity for example: if you disobey the gravitational force you perish.

Since nobody in the history of humanity has ever "disobeyed the gravitational force", this is an absurdly nonsensical statement. Physical laws are descriptive, not proscriptive. They are not laws that you can break; there's no interdimensional police force coming to slap a fine on your arse.

[LastPoet]

I disobeyed gravity and lived. WOW.

[Astreja]

Astreja

He did communicate with you though; the rotations of night and day, the deserts, the oceans, the stars, humanity, all of these are only few; he displayed his presence and constantly doing so.

No, I see no trace whatsoever of your god in those things.  None at all.  Even if there were a god behind those natural phenomena (something I very much doubt), why should we assume that it's your particular god, rather than another one?

[deleteduser12345]

Our friend has dropped a metric shit-tonne of unfounded assertions, as usual, but this little nugget is pure gold:

He is not an invasion force that wants to enslave you; instead think about gravity for example: if you disobey the gravitational force you perish.

Since nobody in the history of humanity has ever "disobeyed the gravitational force", this is an absurdly nonsensical statement. Physical laws are descriptive, not proscriptive. They are not laws that you can break; there's no interdimensional police force coming to slap a fine on your arse.

^ this, it's something many don't understand. The laws are merely descriptions of how the universe behaves.