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Adoption of mentally impaired babies
#81
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
What do they do if they don't find a family? I mean do they just let their child go into the system?

Obviously I have nothing against adoption--my daughter and her wife adopted three wonderful kids. But the system is pretty full. I'd have to question the motivations of the parents. I mean--are they really looking out for the best interest of the child? I mean you say they're financially able to take care of the child--are they setting up a trust fund for the child, to make sure it's taken care of? Or are they just trying to ease their own conscience?
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#82
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Today children with mental disabilities are keep separate from other kids, my niece works in the public school system here and she works in the class for the mentally disabled, our school systems have become more compassionate towards children with disabilities.
A good mother would also protect her child from such bullying, love is a powerful thing and shouldn't be taken lightly.
You say you wouldn't do that to your kid, I ask what kid, you would have relegated it to a trash can. You wouldn't have a child to love and protect, you would never know the joy of a child that happens to see the world through different eyes, loving eyes,trusting eyes.

It may sound callous to you but that's my opinion on the matter. And you can always make another one that won't be mentally or otherwise disabled.
As for the schools - ok, you'll enlist it in a school for disabled kids but you still can't protect it from everything and everyone. There will always be someone who'll bully the kid for not being normal.
May be the fact that I'll never have kids makes me so... callous on the matter but that's the way it is. Still, it doesn't mean I think any less of you. You asked for opinion and I posted mine. I always say what I think.

Quote:Just because you think a child like this would be a pain in the ass
I never said that, Deb! I only asked whether a mother's selfishness is worth spawning a kid that will always be finger pointed as "the different one" or even "the retarded one" and will basically be regarded by people only to mock at it. I doubt that there's a mother who wouldn't want her kid to be normal and not to be mocked at by other people.
Anyway, it seems you don't understand what I meant, so I'll leave this topic for another time.
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#83
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 13, 2017 at 12:48 am)Atheist_BG Wrote:
(January 12, 2017 at 9:24 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Today children with mental disabilities are keep separate from other kids, my niece works in the public school system here and she works in the class for the mentally disabled, our school systems have become more compassionate towards children with disabilities.
A good mother would also protect her child from such bullying, love is a powerful thing and shouldn't be taken lightly.
You say you wouldn't do that to your kid, I ask what kid, you would have relegated it to a trash can. You wouldn't have a child to love and protect, you would never know the joy of a child that happens to see the world through different eyes, loving eyes,trusting eyes.

It may sound callous to you but that's my opinion on the matter. And you can always make another one that won't be mentally or otherwise disabled.
As for the schools - ok, you'll enlist it in a school for disabled kids but you still can't protect it from everything and everyone. There will always be someone who'll bully the kid for not being normal.
May be the fact that I'll never have kids makes me so... callous on the matter but that's the way it is. Still, it doesn't mean I think any less of you. You asked for opinion and I posted mine. I always say what I think.

Quote:Just because you think a child like this would be a pain in the ass
I never said that, Deb! I only asked whether a mother's selfishness is worth spawning a kid that will always be finger pointed as "the different one" or even "the retarded one" and will basically be regarded by people only to mock at it. I doubt that there's a mother who wouldn't want her kid to be normal and not to be mocked at by other people.
Anyway, it seems you don't understand what I meant, so I'll leave this topic for another time.

Catholic Lady didn't write that it was me, GC. She said she did not want to address the subject of abortion, but I did, why, because my wife and I have taken into our home a young lady who was born with a mental disability compounded by schizophrenia at the age of 30. She is the greatest delight, she is the best thing to come into my life in many years. Can she be trying and frustrating of coarse, but that is a minor inconvenience compared to the joy we receive. If her mother had aborted this child I would have missed out on one of the greatest joys in my life. When we have her in public people do not make fun of her and if they did she would probably laugh along with them because she wouldn't understand what they were doing. If someone was to do that in front of me I can promise you I would take embarrassment to the next level for them, they would think twice before doing something like that again to anyone. The stories I could tell people about her and how people have accepted her and love her. Abortion is not an option and neither is love, you don't do the first and you give the second unconditionally.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#84
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
Well, good thing no one robbed you of the enjoyment her diminished life brings you. That's clearly what matters. Best argument against abortion ever. Fuck it, 'm convinced, wheres the nearest clinic, Imma go push a sign in some poor girls face.
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#85
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 13, 2017 at 2:41 am)Rhythm Wrote: Well, good thing no one robbed you of the enjoyment her diminished life brings you. That's clearly what matters. Best argument against abortion ever. Fuck it, 'm convinced, wheres the nearest clinic, Imma go push a sign in some poor girls face.

What diminished life, she enjoys life more than you ever will. She doesn't feel bad about herself and even though you think she is less than human she would love you from the get go. Who are you to be judging anyone, what right do you have to determine her happiness and quality of life, none.Just because she hasn't the ability to insult people doesn't mean she is diminished, I personally call that a blessing, yes not knowing how to hate those who would think of her as something less than human gives her one up on you who believes he's a gift to mankind. You know what I am seeing in you jealousy, that's right you're jealous of a wonderful lady because you can't be a kind, loving, caring, giving, thoughtful, nice, happy, joyful human being like her. Someone should take a bag and write idiot all over it tie it over your head and place you in a room full of steel poles and a mad Rottweiler and maybe just maybe you'll beat some sense into your head.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#86
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
Yes, mental disabilities are a blessing, from god, presumably.  In addition to her diminished life bringing you joy, it also appears to have given you yet another avenue to run your mouth off about the usual shit.

Bonus.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#87
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 13, 2017 at 4:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, mental disabilities are a blessing, from god, presumably.  In addition to her diminished life bringing you joy, it also appears to have given you yet another avenue to run your mouth off about the usual shit.

Bonus.

I doubt, no I know there's no one here that cares less for human life than you do, you're a waste of my time and a waste of life, this is the last post of yours I'll answer on this subject. I know some of the Christians here are thinking God have mercy upon this man, I do not agree with that, so I can't have any pity for you.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#88
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
I know I know I know, I'll burn in everlasting fire for pointing out that you can't help but use a disabled person as a prop in your abortion nonsense, and the things that hop out at you most about the value of this persons life and dignity are, apparently, those things that bring you joy and allow you to imagine me roasting in a pit of flame.

These are the fruits by which I know the tree.  No wonder eve got into shit for eating them.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#89
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
Tertullian would be proud!

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#90
RE: Adoption of mentally impaired babies
(January 11, 2017 at 1:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 10, 2017 at 7:52 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I say dash the baby on some rocks, Get god that angel quicker

What the eff??

Don't you want god to have angels?  I say cut out the middle man of life and all those tricky tricks the devil has planted everywhere and make it a smooth journey from womb to tomb.

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