Faked hate crimes

[A Theist]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....I'm up in the air as to which may be worse, the actual hate crime itself or falsely accusing a person or a group of a faked hate crime. Except in the faked incident it would create actual victims and real life consequences based on on a lie.

I'd say the hate crime is definitely worse, especially if it involves hurting someone physically. Like what happened to that handicapped kid who got kidnapped, tortured, and beat up bc of his race. Stuff like that is very much worse. But that doesn't take away the nastiness of faking a hate crime, either. It's falsely accusing innocent people who may very well get in trouble by the law for something they did not do. You could say that faking a hate crime in itself is sort of a mild form of hate crime because you're doing it with the intention of villainizing the group of people you don't like.

I was actually speaking to the aftermath. Didn't make it clear the way I wanted. We've seen the riots, the protests, the burnings, the looting, destruction of property, people hurt, when the justice system doesn't mete out fair justice in the eyes of the offended for an actual hate crime. This same reaction can also happen with the fabrication of a hate crime. Although a lie it wouldn't be victimless either.

[Catholic_Lady]

Ah I see what you mean. Yeah faking hate crimes creates division and fear, and does so completely unnecesssrily and based on lies.

[Faith No More]

[Catholic_Lady]

Honestly, I'm not sure why I'm getting lectured. Someone posted about fake hate crimes. I came in here and said, "i don't care who commits fake hate crimes, whoever does it sucks." Im not sure what could possibly be so controversial about that comment. I never said that committing a fake hate crime was worse than a real one. When someone makes a post about rape, am I supposed to say "well, murder is worse"? Can't I just say "yeah, rape is heinous and rapists suck"? I think you need to chill out. Seems like you're taking your frustrations of other ppl out on me.

Lol, I'm perfectly chill.  I cant help it if expressing my opinion and asking questions makes you feel lectured.  Defensive much?  Did I touch a nerve?

It sounded like (and still sounds like, quite honestly) you were having some sort of problem with me coming into a thread about fake hate crimes and saying they suck. Which seemed ridiculous.

I'm just trying to point out how conservatives are using this issue to avoid having to discuss the real hate crimes. 

Ok. I have no problem with you pointing out what some conservatives do. Just don't understand why you're saying it to me.  

You say you can be angry about both, but your first post said nothing about the real hate crimes.  You're focused on the fake hate crimes instead of the real ones, which is exactly the point of bringing them up in the first place.

So because my first post on a thread about fake hate crimes, was condemning fake hate crimes, you think this is somehow is at odds with me being angry about real hate crimes as well? I'm not "focused" on the fake hate crimes in the general sense. I'm commenting on fake hate crimes on this thread because this thread is about fake hate crimes, lol. And I still don't understand why that was so controversial.

Hopefully now that I've had to say it 3 times, you are rest assured that yes, I think real hate crimes are worse than fake hate crimes.   

And your metaphor of hate crimes equaling murder and fake ones equaling rape is absurd.  It's more like murder and shoplifting.

I did not AT ALL make the metaphor that hate crimes equal murder and fake ones equal rape. If that's what you got from what I said, then you have misunderstood.