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Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
#91
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
Christians think being gay is wrong so they hate gay people.

Its a classic manifestation of "love the sinner,hate everything about them."

I don't know really. I dont agree with it though
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#92
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
(January 24, 2017 at 4:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: It would probably help by not calling gay people's attraction for each other a "sin."

We don't think their attraction to others is a sin.

Just the actual physical act of sex, then, huh?  It would still help gay people by not calling what they do in private a "sin."  I know it's part of your Catholic dogma, but it's part of the "gays are evil sinners" condemnation that Christianity does toward LGBT's.

(January 25, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Redoubtable Wrote: In recent years this argument against it has died down but Christians still cling to the idea that being a practicing homosexual leads to some kind of maladies, if not physical then spiritual. This is the essence of the moral disgust such believers associate with homosexuality.

Because think "gay sex causes the AIDS!"  I remember a number of years ago hearing an ad during a conservative talk radio program for a book or something concerning "the myth of heterosexual AIDS."  So rather than try to understand the actual science behind HIV transmission, it's easier to just blame gays for all being diseased, and if not physically, then mentally.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#93
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
It's not all Christians, no. But a good lot of them. Maybe there's just a lot of Christian assholes out there. I mean a lot of people I'll notice treat murderers better than gay people. They'll say nothing bad about murderers, and then turn around and talk about gay people like they're this horrible disgusting thing. And whenever I see it I feel like slapping them silly. One of these days I might just do it too.

I mean you have plenty of anti-gay preachers out there talking about how gays deserve to die, and how they're worse than ISIS. (James Manning for example) Apparently being gay is the worst thing you can do, because you never hear them say this about... murder, genocide, or anything else. It's always GAY and TRANSGENDER.

They turn around and call them 'perverted' 'diseased' etc... it's absolute hatred. You don't see this vitrol for other sins. Probably because the other sins are ones they've actually committed or thought about committing. Then again the most homophobic people tend to be closet gays...
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#94
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
(January 21, 2017 at 2:48 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: If anything, I would say gay ppl have less culpability for their sexual sins than straight ppl do. All us straight ppl need to do is wait until we're married and not have sex with anyone else besides our spouse. That's nothing at all compared to what is asked of gay folks. Gay folks are expected to not only never do anything sexual ever, but also to give up the idea of a loving life long relationship with a significant other and have a family. That's a lot to ask of someone, and so i have nothing but compassion and understanding for you.

My bold text.

It's not just a lot to ask of someone. It's thunderously bigoted.
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#95
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
And the 'born that way' thing drives some in the christer orbit just batshit crazy. Taking it out of the 'choice' category is a tough row to hoe as the biblical prohibition presupposes a willingness to 'sin'. Having it being innate to a percentage of the population belies the faith.

And I'm noting this as a nearly 60 year old still possessing a vivid memory of being a third grader and encountering the junior high boys immediately after their PE class on their way to the locker room and realizing how good they smelled, and how badly I wanted to follow them.

Ain't that a weird thing for a third grader to come up with on his own unless it was a primal urge? And recall, this kid grew up in an isolated rural wasteland in the 60s. I wasn't acting on something I'd heard about since I HADN'T heard about it.

LOL, just remembered when I was riding around in a car as a little kid and seeing 'Body Shop' signs around the city and having a VERY wrong idea about what was going on inside them. Might be why I received Revel model car kits for several years as birthday presents till someone noticed I had absolutely no interest in them . . .
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#96
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
Thomas, that is correct. We believe sex is only moral between husband and wife, as I explained in an earlier post. But attraction itself is involuntary and morally neutral.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#97
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
(January 27, 2017 at 2:35 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thomas, that is correct. We believe sex is only moral between husband and wife, as I explained in an earlier post. But attraction itself is involuntary and morally neutral.

Thomas, that is correct. We believe sex is only moral between husband and wife during their first marriage, as I explained in an earlier post. But attraction itself is involuntary and morally neutral.


There, fixed that for you.

Tongue

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One man

One woman

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#98
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
Right. Unless the first marriage was for whatever reason invalid, we believe a person is still technically married to their first spouse. So if we get a divorce, we can't remarry in the Church unless our first marriage is deemed invalid.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#99
RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
Christians are obsessed with anything they cannot control with their ignorant theism.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Why are Christians obsessed with Gay people?
I think it's really immoral and homophobic to think sex is only moral between a man and a woman. Sad
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