Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote: So, at puberty you are fully formed and then you stay that way? I wish.
No. Right after you are done being fully formed, your body starts to deteriorate. You literally start "aging" right after you're done growing/through with puberty. There is no plateau in the lifespan of a human.
Temporarily you never stop aging till your dead
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 5356
Threads: 178
Joined: June 28, 2015
Reputation:
35
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 11:35 pm by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
Orochi Wrote:Nope it is a big deal i state it's a clump of cells because it is
You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:35 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 11:36 pm by Amarok.)
(January 21, 2017 at 11:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:30 pm)Orochi Wrote: But not everything
Second It's still formation in the first and modification in puberty
But even if we grant your promise those things are still bodily reliant on the mother to survive thus rendering the argument is secondary really
What isn't already there?
What isn't there
(January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: Orochi Wrote:Nope it is a big deal i state it's a clump of cells because it is
You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
But there is a massive difference
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 3064
Threads: 3
Joined: July 10, 2016
Reputation:
37
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: Orochi Wrote:Nope it is a big deal i state it's a clump of cells because it is
You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
So is my fingernail. Is that a person?
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:38 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: Orochi Wrote:Nope it is a big deal i state it's a clump of cells because it is
You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
You and an ant are a mass of cells so you believe killing ants is murder?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 5356
Threads: 178
Joined: June 28, 2015
Reputation:
35
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:44 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 11:51 pm by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
(January 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Jesster Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
So is my fingernail. Is that a person?
Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself. If everything is just a 'clump of cells' then nothing is a person by your own definition hence why your reasoning that the fetus is just a 'clump of cells' doesn't hold up.
(January 21, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Orochi Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm)pool the great Wrote: You do realize you too are just a bunch of cells, right?
You and an ant are a mass of cells so you believe killing ants is murder? (emphasis mine)
Stop doing all the work for me. You just admitted yourself it's "killing" no matter how small the 'chunk of cells' is.
Posts: 5664
Threads: 219
Joined: June 20, 2016
Reputation:
61
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:47 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:25 pm)chimp3 Wrote: So, at puberty you are fully formed and then you stay that way? I wish.
No. Right after you are done being fully formed, your body starts to deteriorate. You literally start "aging" right after you're done growing/through with puberty. There is no plateau in the lifespan of a human.
I am 57 years old! I agree my peak was in my late teens. But your phrase "fully formed" throws me! What am I looking at in the mirror now? I wish to Mary, Mother of all Creatures, that I was looking at a less developed form!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
Posts: 3064
Threads: 3
Joined: July 10, 2016
Reputation:
37
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:47 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:44 pm)pool the great Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Jesster Wrote: So is my fingernail. Is that a person?
Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself. If everything is just a 'clump of cells' then nothing is a person by your own definition hence why your reasoning that the fetus is just a 'clump of cells' doesn't hold up.
Contradicted myself? Oh, you think I'm everyone else arguing with you at the same time.
Read back over what I said about viability. I didn't just stop at "clump of cells". I brought this up to make a wider point, but you're stuck on the single issue.
Posts: 11697
Threads: 117
Joined: November 5, 2016
Reputation:
43
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 11:49 pm by Amarok.)
(January 21, 2017 at 11:44 pm)pool the great Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Jesster Wrote: So is my fingernail. Is that a person?
Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself. If everything is just a 'clump of cells' then nothing is a person by your own definition hence why your reasoning that the fetus is just a 'clump of cells' doesn't hold up.
(January 21, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Orochi Wrote: You and an ant are a mass of cells so you believe killing ants is murder?
Stop doing all the work for me. You just admitted yourself it's "killing" no matter how small the 'chunk of cells' is.
I never said abortion wasn't killing
Just like eating meat is killing but you must believe that to be murder I don't because there is a difference between killing and murder
As for a chunk of cells I already stated the difference
(January 21, 2017 at 11:47 pm)Jesster Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:44 pm)pool the great Wrote: Congratulations, you just contradicted yourself. If everything is just a 'clump of cells' then nothing is a person by your own definition hence why your reasoning that the fetus is just a 'clump of cells' doesn't hold up.
Contradicted myself? Oh, you think I'm everyone else arguing with you at the same time.
Read back over what I said about viability. I didn't just stop at "clump of cells". I brought this up to make a wider point, but you're stuck on the single issue.
Precisely
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
Inuit Proverb
Posts: 15452
Threads: 147
Joined: June 15, 2015
Reputation:
88
RE: Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?
January 21, 2017 at 11:51 pm
(January 21, 2017 at 11:47 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (January 21, 2017 at 11:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No. Right after you are done being fully formed, your body starts to deteriorate. You literally start "aging" right after you're done growing/through with puberty. There is no plateau in the lifespan of a human.
I am 57 years old! I agree my peak was in my late teens. But your phrase "fully formed" throws me! What am I looking at in the mirror now? I wish to Mary, Mother of all Creatures, that I was looking at a less developed form!
LOL that's bc you're deteriorating. We're growing/developing for the first 20ish years of our lives. After that, we start deteriorating. Thats why our body keeps changing after puberty. Not bc were still "growing" but bc we are deteriorating. I literally learned that in nursing school and I remember being freaked out.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
|
