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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 29, 2017 at 12:09 am
If I really cared about choosing between being a Protestant or a Catholic, I'd choose just Christian. That's my non-religious opinion.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 4:06 am
(January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
I'm a Detroit Lions fan. I want to see them win the Super Bowl one day. That doesn't mean I believe it will happen.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 6:34 am
OK let's try to get to the core of this
(January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
What makes you think that you will see people you love after death? Why would anyone think this place really exists in the first place? How can we trust it? Where is the proof?
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 2:42 pm
(January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
It's comforting to think I'll win the lottery, that doesn't make it so.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 3:45 pm
(January 31, 2017 at 4:06 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: (January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
I'm a Detroit Lions fan. I want to see them win the Super Bowl one day. That doesn't mean I believe it will happen.
Yes, but the Chicago Cubs took the last World Series so there is always hope!
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm
(January 31, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (January 31, 2017 at 4:06 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote: I'm a Detroit Lions fan. I want to see them win the Super Bowl one day. That doesn't mean I believe it will happen.
Yes, but the Chicago Cubs took the last World Series so there is always hope!
Yeah, but I hear they had to exorcise a goat to do it.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 5:05 pm
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(January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: I actually considered Catholicism for awhile. But the reason i just chose not to was mostly due to verses as
Psalm 2:6-12 and Luke 19:27 in context this would mean to set up a kingdom of God's people which could justify murder, the problem is traditionally catholicism and the same would be with orthodox christianity is that church tradition are just as important as the bible. So looking at the history Christianity would not encourage violence but they could use it to get the dominant cultural status. Which it is known for in middle ages.
I was actually just considering to just not believe it at all because i had moral problems with it that even if i lived in those times i could just not bring myself to such a thing. I am more of a discussing type of person.
In either case protestantism which is not that old is more on reformation of Christianity, so its easy to just reinterpret the meanings because it doesnt believe in the historical value of Christianity as the traditional ones do, so i could just say it means "Its what happens when all will be put before judgement after death" or "it means Christianity as in god's words will be what triumps over the pagan views of truth"
I really don't care what particular version of mythology you believe.
Quote:In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
In either case my goal is to try to be good and just do my best in general since i feel life has a purpose that way.
But let me know what you think?
What do I think?
I can not imagine believing something because it makes me feel better. That is a completely foreign concept to me.
I want to believe as many true things, and as few false things as possible. I want my internal model of the world to map as closely to the real world as possible.
Believing something because it makes you feel better is not a path to truth, it is a path to gullibility. Every con man ever used the same techniques on other people to get money from them, that you are using on yourself to get 'warm fuzzy' feelings.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 5:39 pm
(January 31, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Yes, but the Chicago Cubs took the last World Series so there is always hope!
Sure, but the Cubs could at least look at history and say, "It's happened before."
The Lions can't even look back and say, "we came close."
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 5:50 pm
(January 27, 2017 at 5:53 am)Rispri Wrote: I actually considered Catholicism for awhile. But the reason i just chose not to was mostly due to verses as
Psalm 2:6-12 and Luke 19:27 in context this would mean to set up a kingdom of God's people which could justify murder, the problem is traditionally catholicism and the same would be with orthodox christianity is that church tradition are just as important as the bible. So looking at the history Christianity would not encourage violence but they could use it to get the dominant cultural status. Which it is known for in middle ages. Why any form of Christianity at all?
I think you're using the wrong starting point.
The first historical records date from a time when not even Abraham had existed... Not even the genesis of all Abrahamic religions was around!
If any god ever had actual contact with humans, I'd think that the earlier the record, the better... The less chance for contamination by human rebellion and imagination.
Quote:I was actually just considering to just not believe it at all because i had moral problems with it that even if i lived in those times i could just not bring myself to such a thing. I am more of a discussing type of person.
"I thought about not believing, but out wasn't for me"
That sounds so odd. My lack of belief is not an option, to me. I just can't accept the extraordinary accounts found in holy books as representative of reality.
Make a Google image search for "troll physics". The results are hilarious in their plausibility, while being completely wrong.
I think a similar effect is in place with belief in deities... To most people, they seem plausible... But if you look carefully, they don't match up with observed reality.
Quote:In either case protestantism which is not that old is more on reformation of Christianity, so its easy to just reinterpret the meanings because it doesnt believe in the historical value of Christianity as the traditional ones do, so i could just say it means "Its what happens when all will be put before judgement after death" or "it means Christianity as in god's words will be what triumps over the pagan views of truth"
Define "truth".
Quote:In either case the reason i must believe is because 1: I have fear of death. 2: Its comforting to think of an idea to see the loved ones after i i die.
I smell a poe.
Quote:In either case my goal is to try to be good and just do my best in general since i feel life has a purpose that way.
But let me know what you think?
I think you have a worthy goal.
Best of luck with the implementation!
Quote:Btw i dont hate catholics or orthodox christians or anything. It just wasn't for me.
Honestly, to me, these 3 Christianities all look like the same thing.
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RE: Why i became a protestant Christian
January 31, 2017 at 5:54 pm
(January 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (January 31, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Yes, but the Chicago Cubs took the last World Series so there is always hope!
Yeah, but I hear they had to exorcise a goat to do it.
Every good thing in my life involved a goat.
No, I don't want to talk about it. 
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