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Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 9:33 am
Lets get this out of the way. Liberals have the empathy, and I love them for that. Trump is a fucking bully. He has used the same political demagoguery we have seen in Jim Crow, McCarthism and WW2 Germany.
Having said that, I do warn that demanding "never say ever" is exactly what his base will use against the left, the very same censorship North Korea demands, the same censorship Saudi Arabia and Iran demand in not criticizing their leaders. And wasn't it Bannon, whom now is in a seat of power say "Media should shut up".
It is possible to fight bullies and bigots, and we should. But in doing that liberals have to remember dissent is exactly what closed societies and conservative states want, no dissent, no blasphemy, no criticism of religion or leaders. Liberals must face how dangerous it is, especially now that all 3 branches are under control of the right who does not like our criticism of their bullshit demagoguery, attempts to control women, anti LGBT views. It is a MISTAKE to hand those assholes the power of censorship. PC is their slur, not ours, do not allow them to use that against you.
Let the fucking bullies be assholes in public, put the zoo animals on display. We have courts that CAN arrest them for inciting violence. We have courts to sue them when they advocate harm of others. Let the fuckers hang themselves. I am afraid in your good intent in protecting pluralism, they will use that same attitude to silence OUR rightful calling them fucking bullies.
So to you Trump, you say you value free speech. GREAT, then keep this up. FUCK YOU, FUCK BANNON FUCK BULLIES...... If you refuse to leave this up, then it is NOT free speech you want, it is submission, just like North Korea, just like Iran, just like Saudi Arabia. Yes, I hate assholes who bully LGBT, bully women, bully journalists, bully judges, bully intel. So if you Trump, hate censorship, hate PC, this liberal isn't PC. Leave it up and PROVE you value free speech. Otherwise. FUCK YOU.
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 10:22 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2017 at 10:30 am by A Theist.)
(February 2, 2017 at 9:33 am)Brian37 Wrote: Lets get this out of the way. Liberals have the empathy, and I love them for that. Trump is a fucking bully. He has used the same political demagoguery we have seen in Jim Crow, McCarthism and WW2 Germany.
Having said that, I do warn that demanding "never say ever" is exactly what his base will use against the left, the very same censorship North Korea demands, the same censorship Saudi Arabia and Iran demand in not criticizing their leaders. And wasn't it Bannon, whom now is in a seat of power say "Media should shut up".
It is possible to fight bullies and bigots, and we should. But in doing that liberals have to remember dissent is exactly what closed societies and conservative states want, no dissent, no blasphemy, no criticism of religion or leaders. Liberals must face how dangerous it is, especially now that all 3 branches are under control of the right who does not like our criticism of their bullshit demagoguery, attempts to control women, anti LGBT views. It is a MISTAKE to hand those assholes the power of censorship. PC is their slur, not ours, do not allow them to use that against you.
Let the fucking bullies be assholes in public, put the zoo animals on display. We have courts that CAN arrest them for inciting violence. We have courts to sue them when they advocate harm of others. Let the fuckers hang themselves. I am afraid in your good intent in protecting pluralism, they will use that same attitude to silence OUR rightful calling them fucking bullies.
So to you Trump, you say you value free speech. GREAT, then keep this up. FUCK YOU, FUCK BANNON FUCK BULLIES...... If you refuse to leave this up, then it is NOT free speech you want, it is submission, just like North Korea, just like Iran, just like Saudi Arabia. Yes, I hate assholes who bully LGBT, bully women, bully journalists, bully judges, bully intel. So if you Trump, hate censorship, hate PC, this liberal isn't PC. Leave it up and PROVE you value free speech. Otherwise. FUCK YOU. Yeah, no shit! I feel ya man! Fuck those damn conservative bullies! Those damned McCarthyites are trying to rob us of our free speech! Just look at how this damned alt right protest gets violent because they want to bully and shut down the free speech rights of a poor empathetic liberal who was invited to speak on the campus a particular well known university. This shit just pisses me off!  We have courts that CAN arrest them for this kind of shit! FUCK YOU, FUCK BANNON FUCK BULLIES
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 1:28 pm
Aw dammit A Theist you beat me to it!
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 1:53 pm
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 2:05 pm
It wouldn't shock me if it was trump supporters causing damage in order to make the protesters look bad. Never in my life could I have imagined myself saying that, but there it is.
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 2:10 pm
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2017 at 2:11 pm by SteelCurtain.)
Not to mention, the reason the protest was happening was not solely because of Milo's abhorrent trolling.
He was doxxing a student, sending out personally identifying information to his Twitter followers because she was a trans person that Milo felt couldn't pass. His alt-right army was sending death threats and threatening personal relationships with this person. This is the same reason why reddit shut down /r/alt-right yesterday. It gets actually dangerous.
That was the reason that the students were protesting in the first place. The college decided to cancel the speech as a result of protest. I don't know how this is restricting Milo's free speech in any way. In fact, this is how democracy works. Enough people showed up and voiced their opinion, and the college listened to them. He could still post up at a local park and give his speech.
To equate what happened here to the president freezing out any media outlet that reports on him negatively is just lunacy.
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 2:10 pm
(February 2, 2017 at 1:28 pm)alpha male Wrote: Aw dammit A Theist you beat me to it!
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 3:39 pm
I don't understand the thread title. I'm a well intended liberal and I don't have overpowered erectile dysfunction at all.
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 3:46 pm
(February 2, 2017 at 2:10 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Not to mention, the reason the protest was happening was not solely because of Milo's abhorrent trolling.
He was doxxing a student, sending out personally identifying information to his Twitter followers because she was a trans person that Milo felt couldn't pass. His alt-right army was sending death threats and threatening personal relationships with this person. This is the same reason why reddit shut down /r/alt-right yesterday. It gets actually dangerous.
That was the reason that the students were protesting in the first place. The college decided to cancel the speech as a result of protest. I don't know how this is restricting Milo's free speech in any way. In fact, this is how democracy works. Enough people showed up and voiced their opinion, and the college listened to them. He could still post up at a local park and give his speech.
To equate what happened here to the president freezing out any media outlet that reports on him negatively is just lunacy.
Facts!??
How dare you interrupt a diatribe with facts?
Those things are just SO damned inconvenient...
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RE: Warning to my well intended liberals OP/ED
February 2, 2017 at 3:47 pm
(February 2, 2017 at 2:10 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Not to mention, the reason the protest was happening was not solely because of Milo's abhorrent trolling.
He was doxxing a student, sending out personally identifying information to his Twitter followers because she was a trans person that Milo felt couldn't pass. His alt-right army was sending death threats and threatening personal relationships with this person. This is the same reason why reddit shut down /r/alt-right yesterday. It gets actually dangerous.
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Wow, really? 
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