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What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
#11
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
I think you're weird.
Let's break it down, shall we?

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: Why do some groups deserve our help and sympathy, but not others?  
Deserve, I think they all do deserve.
But why are you using your white male dominant bias to label and group other people?

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: Why do black and latino people deserve pay equity, but autistic people don't?  
Deserve, again... if both individuals perform equally well, they deserve equal compensation for their work.
In practice, do those two "groups" perform equally well?

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: Why do we care more about refugees than homeless veterans?  
Care to show us some figures as to how many veterans are housed and taken care for, versus how many refugees are housed and taken care of?
Also, why are there so many homeless veterans to begin with? Perhaps that's a more worthwhile research path that will help fix that internal problem.

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: Why is it wrong to favor someone in a hiring decision based on their race, but it's not wrong to favor someone in a hiring decision based on their good looks?   
Because race is mostly objective and good looks are a bit subjective?
Either way, it's a false dichotomy, what you're using here... you know that, right?

I don't know about you... but I'd prefer to work with someone who's pleasant to look at, provided the alternative offered as much promise in terms of actually getting the work done.

If you have two different people, from two different races, but showing equal promise of getting the work done, how do you, as an HR guy, decide who to hire?

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: And why is it wrong to pay a woman less than man, but it's OK to pay a shorter person less money than a taller person (taller people make more money than shorter people)?

Who said it was OK to pay shorter people less?
Just because statistics show it to be the case, doesn't mean that, for the same job, they get paid less.
The problem is you're probably using crappy statistics.
Do short people get into high paying jobs? Maybe, on average, there's much less of such people in these jobs, thus elevating the average pay for taller people?
And why?
I'd wager that higher paying jobs (in this present capitalist society) are in the hands of confident people and it is well known that taller people feel more confident and, hence, get those jobs, while short people, lacking in confidence, are not hired, some don't even go out to get them... remaining in low paying jobs.

(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote:  "Social Justice" is applied so inconsistently that it makes no sense to me.  

Maybe you should get your head out of your hole-in-the-ground, stop whining and look at the big picture!
Avoid false dichotomies, false comparisons, search for the real reasons for things... and try to make them better.
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#12
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#13
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#14
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
I'm thinking conservative democratic socialist. Maybe. For what it's worth.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#15
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
You're a Redpill Liberal. Which is the most annoying type of liberal.
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#16
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
OP: Why the hell would you want to label yourself? As soon as you label yourself, and then do something counter/contrary to the label, you get a new label: hypocrite.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
(February 7, 2017 at 11:04 am)mh.brewer Wrote: OP: Why the hell would you want to label yourself? As soon as you label yourself, and then do something counter/contrary to the label, you get a new label: hypocrite.

This. It's definitely a danger, if not a given. But I must confess, the OP's question is something I've wondered as well. I'm kind of all over the place, myself, but maybe a slight bit differently.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#18
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
@OP Q

Sound like a run of the mill neocon to me.  Not sure why that would be difficult to classify or talk about unless you didn't want to think of yourself (or be thought of) as such?
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#19
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
I don't think there are many people that fit perfectly in these labels, no matter how you define them. You tend to just pick the label that 'ticks the most boxes' for brevity's sake.

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#20
RE: What Do You Call a Fiscal Progressive and a Social Conservative?
(February 7, 2017 at 5:48 am)InquiringMind Wrote: I don't believe that women are (or ever were) oppressed by men, because oppressors typically don't go off to die in war or buy diamond rings for the people they oppress.  I think that the gender wage gap is a myth, because if companies could get the same work from women as from men for 23% less money, then companies would fire all their men and hire all-women staffs. 

I'm in favor of gay marriage, but I think that transgenderism should be considered a disorder, not a variation of "normal."  If you have a Y chromosome and male genitals, but you believe you are actually female, then I believe that you should be treated respectfully and with sympathy as someone who has a psychological disorder and is in need of treatment, not as a hero in a grand civil rights battle to overthrow the oppressive "patriarchy."  

I support most gun control measures and abortion freedom (freedom, not "rights.")  I also support the male abortion, the freedom for a man to sign away all rights and responsibilities to an unborn child, just as a woman has the freedom to abort it.  


I don't think your political label is really what defines you.  You merely have an extraordinary lack of empathy for anyone who isn't just like you.  Self-centered works pretty well.  But I don't think you have a psychological condition.  I'd call it more of a character flaw. (I bolded the more glaring evidence.)
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