What would you call my new beliefs?

[Whateverist]

When we were single cell organisms we were all one and immortal besides. But we gave up all that for a better existence albeit one with an expiration date. Meh.

[c172]

I believe there's no god. 

Anybody need a tl;dr for that?

[Whateverist]

Just once I'd like the TL;DR to be: "derp".

[The Grand Nudger]

Inductively, to escape the logical absurdity that physical matter always existed, what we are left with as an explanation is a non-physical, timeless, un-caused, force that was powerful enough to bring matter into existence out of nothing. 

The problem that I see constantly here is that most of you are missing the fact that the case for God is a cumulative case. No one thing is meant to be the defining argument. Here is just the list from Natural Theology (as opposed to revealed theology in the Bible or personal experience in people's lives)

a. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
b. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
c. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
d. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
e. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.

Guess what you get when you put five shitty arguments together?  A shitty argument.

[c172]

Just once I'd like the TL;DR to be: "derp".

That does have less characters than what I wrote.

[SteveII]

Inductively, to escape the logical absurdity that physical matter always existed, what we are left with as an explanation is a non-physical, timeless, un-caused, force that was powerful enough to bring matter into existence out of nothing. 

The problem that I see constantly here is that most of you are missing the fact that the case for God is a cumulative case. No one thing is meant to be the defining argument. Here is just the list from Natural Theology (as opposed to revealed theology in the Bible or personal experience in people's lives)

a. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
b. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
c. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
d. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
e. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.

Guess what you get when you put five shitty arguments together?  A shitty argument.

Well, I would rather have a well constructed set of arguments that demonstrate that I have an internally consistent worldview, then to cobble together a bunch of "we don't knows", "brute facts", theories impossible to apply scientific methods to, and a huge list of assumptions without the possibility of ultimate answers.

[Harry Nevis]

Yes, we are.

But Krauss's theory is not meant to answer that. It is only meant to answer why our universe, in its present form, exists.

Problem is, your answer does not have any explanatory power. It has plenty of explanatory scope, but no power.

Explaining a mystery (why the universe exists), by appealing to a bigger mystery (a universe creating god), does not actually EXPLAIN anything. And it only creates more questions. Positing a panacea to explain a mystery, explains nothing.  

In other words, a hypothesis that explains everything explains nothing.

Inductively, to escape the logical absurdity that physical matter always existed, what we are left with as an explanation is a non-physical, timeless, un-caused, force that was powerful enough to bring matter into existence out of nothing. 

The problem that I see constantly here is that most of you are missing the fact that the case for God is a cumulative case. No one thing is meant to be the defining argument. Here is just the list from Natural Theology (as opposed to revealed theology in the Bible or personal experience in people's lives)

a. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
b. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
c. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
d. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
e. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.

So you're basically redefining terms like "best" and "explanation".

[SteveII]

Inductively, to escape the logical absurdity that physical matter always existed, what we are left with as an explanation is a non-physical, timeless, un-caused, force that was powerful enough to bring matter into existence out of nothing. 

The problem that I see constantly here is that most of you are missing the fact that the case for God is a cumulative case. No one thing is meant to be the defining argument. Here is just the list from Natural Theology (as opposed to revealed theology in the Bible or personal experience in people's lives)

a. God is the best explanation why anything at all exists.
b. God is the best explanation of the origin of the universe.
c. God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.
d. God is the best explanation of intentional states of consciousness.
e. God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties.

So you're basically redefining terms like "best" and "explanation".

No, this is simply a list of the top 5 Natural Theology arguments that I believe conclude that "God is the best explanation for...". While I think the arguments are sound, since atheism and it's attendant Naturalism does not have any explanation, I'm afraid the bar is not set very high as to best. 

If you want to talk about a particular argument, start a new thread. I will participate.

[Harry Nevis]

So you're basically redefining terms like "best" and "explanation".

No, this is simply a list of the top 5 Natural Theology arguments that I believe conclude that "God is the best explanation for...". While I think the arguments are sound, since atheism and it's attendant Naturalism does not have any explanation, I'm afraid the bar is not set very high as to best. 

If you want to talk about a particular argument, start a new thread. I will participate.

You have no arguments, just assertions.  I'll pass.

[SteveII]

No, this is simply a list of the top 5 Natural Theology arguments that I believe conclude that "God is the best explanation for...". While I think the arguments are sound, since atheism and it's attendant Naturalism does not have any explanation, I'm afraid the bar is not set very high as to best. 

If you want to talk about a particular argument, start a new thread. I will participate.

You have no arguments, just assertions.  I'll pass.

So, you were not really looking for a discussion, just looking for kudos for cheap shots that you are not equipped to back up. Good to know where you are on the "thinker vs. cool-aid-drinker" scale.