Have you read the good book?

[Harry Nevis]

Yeah, I remember something Jesus said about "Blessed are the retards" or "The morons will inherit the earth" or something like that.

That's how shallow christianity is.  You can insult and degrade people and claim you were only being christ-like.

Some morality.

And if it's not about morality?

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I'm sure it's not with you.  Wanting to give "the gift of hell" showed that pretty well.

Your religion is just a convenient club for wield on people you look down on.  You're a small-minded individual, made smaller by ranting and claims you know god.

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And yet no evidence has been presented. You keep brining up Aquinas's 5 ways as though they were evidence in some way, they aren't.

With respect to Aquinas, the demonstrations are based on common observations, i.e. things about the world that are 'evident'. That's what evidence means.  It is evident that beings can persist despite changes (1W). It is evident that efficient causes are essentially ordered (2W. It is evident that there is something rather than nothing (3W). It is evident that some things better instantiate their kind (4W). It is evident that causes have regular effects (5W). More recently, I have been mentioning other things that are evident: the natural instinct of humans to believe, apprehension one's self in relation to being-as-such, and cross-cultural consistency in mystical experiences of the divine. All that counts as evidence. I can appreciate if you feel the evidence does not support my conclusion, but that's not the same thing as claiming "no evidence."

And putting the word, "evident" in quotes says it all.

[Drich]

The ultimate measure of what is and is not God can only be found in the bible.

And you know this how exactly?  Your devotion to 'biblical Christianity' is just another dogmatic religious doctrine, founded on nothing.

Actually going the other way with it.

There are many other 'beings' out there that to us wield God like power. I know most of you like to think deity is born out of a vacuum or out of some intellectual need minus fact... Not the case. Over and over as we witness or hear of the orgins of other religions (Islam, LDS ect) powerful being claiming to be God or a messenger of God gives a message counter what the bible says.

There is so much beyond your, absence of any deity preview, that even the blind could see it. To set Christianity or rather biblical Christian apart from the rest of the crowd one must let the bible set the definition of what is and is not God. Because without the bible what do you truly have? Tradition, dogma, doctrine? how does that differ from anyother religious belief?

If you seek to worship or test or know the God of the bible, then it is to the bible alone must you seek the face of God. Meaning it is to the bible alone that will help you identify and or recognize God when He shows up.

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And if it's not about morality?

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I'm sure it's not with you.  Wanting to give "the gift of hell" showed that pretty well.

Your religion is just a convenient club for wield on people you look down on.  You're a small-minded individual, made smaller by ranting and claims you know god.

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Unlike any Atheist social gathering which only has the purest intentions to educate poor confused theists.

Or is it the other way round?

You gather together to bully the religious till you figure out your not smart enough to bully us word for word, then you seek to manipulate by twisting the religion to fit some carnie morality system that only you and those like you can identify.

Here's an idea sport, why not just move past the one up's manship crap and simply stay on topic

[KUSA]

So whenever anyone doesn't find god, it is always their fault.

Yeah, pretty much.

Ok then if that's the case then I have only one thing to say.

Fuck God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ.

[Harry Nevis]

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Unlike any Atheist social gathering which only has the purest intentions to educate poor confused theists.

Or is it the other way round?

You gather together to bully the religious till you figure out your not smart enough to bully us word for word, then you seek to manipulate by twisting the religion to fit some carnie morality system that only you and those like you can identify.

Here's an idea sport, why not just move past the one up's manship crap and simply stay on topic
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Been to many "atheist social gatherings", have you?

You came here, asshole, to an atheist website.  Drones like you are entertaining, but since you have nothing to back up your fantasy, that's all it is.  And as far as the twisting of religion, which is all you do, that's the most entertaining part!  Listening to you rationalize your baseless beliefs, calling people retards, wishing hell on people, etc. ( and I'M the one with the carnie morality?!) shows you have precious little to offer to anyone who doesn't believe exactly as you do.  You're one of the biggest arguments against christianity i've come across in a long time.

[GUBU]

I've started to make my own handwritten copy. Its amazing how the meaning of something opens up when you must attend to every word.

I'll save you the bother Wooters. It's all bullshit.

Now go out into the world and find yourself something useful to do.

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I have read probably 75% of it. It is such dry reading and I can't keep my attention up enough to go through absolutely all of it. I am much more familiar with it than most Christians though.

You say it is dry reading yet many Christians believe it is the richest reading, so no l do not believe you are.

GC

Very few christians read the bible, including (as amply demonstrated by these fora) you.

[Faith No More]

With respect to Aquinas, the demonstrations are based on common observations, i.e. things about the world that are 'evident'. That's what evidence means.  It is evident that beings can persist despite changes (1W). It is evident that efficient causes are essentially ordered (2W. It is evident that there is something rather than nothing (3W). It is evident that some things better instantiate their kind (4W). It is evident that causes have regular effects (5W). More recently, I have been mentioning other things that are evident: the natural instinct of humans to believe, apprehension one's self in relation to being-as-such, and cross-cultural consistency in mystical experiences of the divine. All that counts as evidence. I can appreciate if you feel the evidence does not support my conclusion, but that's not the same thing as claiming "no evidence."

It's too bad quantum mechanics takes a giant shit on most of that, eh?

"It is evident that some things better instantiate their kind." Lol, is that supposed to mean something?

[Angrboda]

The ultimate measure of what is and is not God can only be found in the bible.

And you know this how exactly?  Your devotion to 'biblical Christianity' is just another dogmatic religious doctrine, founded on nothing.

Actually going the other way with it.

There are many other 'beings' out there that to us wield God like power. I know most of you like to think deity is born out of a vacuum or out of some intellectual need minus fact... Not the case. Over and over as we witness or hear of the orgins of other religions (Islam, LDS ect) powerful being claiming to be God or a messenger of God gives a message counter what the bible says.

There is so much beyond your, absence of any deity preview, that even the blind could see it. To set Christianity or rather biblical Christian apart from the rest of the crowd one must let the bible set the definition of what is and is not God. Because without the bible what do you truly have? Tradition, dogma, doctrine? how does that differ from anyother religious belief?

Biblical Christianity setting itself apart from other religious beliefs does not in any way justify taking the bible view of God as truth. You've set the bible up as the standard of what is God, and I want to know how you justify using that as the standard. Saying "because it's different" doesn't justify it.

[Cyberman]

There are many other 'beings' out there that to us wield God like power. I know most of you like to think deity is born out of a vacuum or out of some intellectual need minus fact... Not the case. Over and over as we witness or hear of the orgins of other religions (Islam, LDS ect) powerful being claiming to be God or a messenger of God gives a message counter what the bible says.

There is so much beyond your, absence of any deity preview, that even the blind could see it. To set Christianity or rather biblical Christian apart from the rest of the crowd one must let the bible set the definition of what is and is not God. Because without the bible what do you truly have? Tradition, dogma, doctrine? how does that differ from anyother religious belief?

[Godscreated]

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You say it is dry reading yet many Christians believe it is the richest reading, so no l do not believe you are.

GC

Very few christians read the bible, including (as amply demonstrated by these fora) you.

You have never been able to challenge myself with scripture, so if l'm not a Bible reader what does that mean for your biblical intellect.

GC

[Drich]

There are many other 'beings' out there that to us wield God like power. I know most of you like to think deity is born out of a vacuum or out of some intellectual need minus fact... Not the case. Over and over as we witness or hear of the orgins of other religions (Islam, LDS ect) powerful being claiming to be God or a messenger of God gives a message counter what the bible says.

There is so much beyond your, absence of any deity preview, that even the blind could see it. To set Christianity or rather biblical Christian apart from the rest of the crowd one must let the bible set the definition of what is and is not God. Because without the bible what do you truly have? Tradition, dogma, doctrine? how does that differ from anyother religious belief?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUG0IMjfxCE

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Actually going the other way with it.

There are many other 'beings' out there that to us wield God like power. I know most of you like to think deity is born out of a vacuum or out of some intellectual need minus fact... Not the case. Over and over as we witness or hear of the orgins of other religions (Islam, LDS ect) powerful being claiming to be God or a messenger of God gives a message counter what the bible says.

There is so much beyond your, absence of any deity preview, that even the blind could see it. To set Christianity or rather biblical Christian apart from the rest of the crowd one must let the bible set the definition of what is and is not God. Because without the bible what do you truly have? Tradition, dogma, doctrine? how does that differ from anyother religious belief?

Biblical Christianity setting itself apart from other religious beliefs does not in any way justify taking the bible view of God as truth.  You've set the bible up as the standard of what is God, and I want to know how you justify using that as the standard.  Saying "because it's different" doesn't justify it.

It's simple.

In the bible is a map to God, to the God the bible described IE "The God of the bible." I followed the map and found the God of the bible. Not the God of Catholics, the Methodist or the Baptists. These religions use the frame work of the bible to build a religious expression or a brand specific worship, which is ok in so far as salvation is concerned. But not so good as far as deep spiritual connection is concerned. So again after I was saved i doubbled down on the 'A/S/K' or the Road map to God and more and more was revealed.

Following the map and finding God vets the bible as being the only source material one needs to find God.

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Unlike any Atheist social gathering which only has the purest intentions to educate poor confused theists.

Or is it the other way round?

You gather together to bully the religious till you figure out your not smart enough to bully us word for word, then you seek to manipulate by twisting the religion to fit some carnie morality system that only you and those like you can identify.

Here's an idea sport, why not just move past the one up's manship crap and simply stay on topic

Been to many "atheist social gatherings", have you?

[color=#ff3333]You came here, asshole, to an atheist website.  Drones like you are entertaining, but since you have nothing to back up your fantasy, that's all it is. [/quote]
Says the noob who still hasn't figured out how the quoting system works yet.
Need your advise I do not, on who is.. and who is not...

And as far as the twisting of religion, which is all you do, that's the most entertaining part! 

Poor little guy.. has figured out calling God immoral is doing exactly what he thinks we do... awwwe Keep twy'in, and keep drinking milk and one day maybe you'll get your quote tags situated.

Listening to you rationalize your baseless beliefs, calling people retards, wishing hell on people, etc. ( and I'M the one with the carnie morality?!) shows you have precious little to offer to anyone who doesn't believe exactly as you do.  You're one of the biggest arguments against christianity i've come across in a long time.[]

Seriously? as quickly as you built that strawman fallacy out of my words, I'd have thought that every Christian is as evil as I am. As turning to a straw man argument seems to be your goto when ever your spiritual side is being opposed.