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Evolution Questions
#71
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 21, 2017 at 4:13 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:
(March 21, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Abiogenesis is not evolutionary theory, it's the border between chemistry and biology, and thus irrelevant to your supposed question.

It can be, chemical evolution.

Next level up from what I'm talking about. It's the boundary between simple chemicals and "life".
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#72
RE: Evolution Questions
Val, it is my belief that life started from very simple organic molecules, "self-replicating" modules,  that were structured in such a way that they could chemically make copies of themselves.  Eventually RNA formed, and then DNA.  Over very long periods of time, more complex structures aggregated and eventually resulted in what we now know as cells.  At this point, evolution could get underway.

Evolution has a natural bias towards supporting life -- Even a minuscule advantage in reproduction will allow a genetic line to perpetuate itself, and over time all those tiny advantages create trends -- towards multi-cellular organisms, towards awareness of and responsiveness to the environment, towards mobility, towards sentience and intelligence.  Things that work live to see another day; things that don't work tend to die out.

Man and other higher-order animals, if you look at them closely, are just collections of processes and specialized cell lines.  We are communities of evolved cells that perform mostly useful functions for the community as a whole, as well as for themselves.  There are a lot of dead ends and sometimes deleterious features that came along for the ride, features that no longer work, coding that might have functioned 10,000 generations ago but is now just junk DNA, taking up space on a chromosome but not doing anything in particular.
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#73
RE: Evolution Questions
You just need something, anything, that can replicate with less than perfect fidelity, and bam, Charlie D is in da house.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#74
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 22, 2017 at 2:15 am)Alex K Wrote: You just need something, anything, that can replicate with less than perfect fidelity, and bam, Charlie D is in da house.

Interesting tidbits:  Through the other DNA donor (no longer *in* our household, thank FSM), my daughter is related to the Wedgwood family and thereby indirectly related to Charlie D.  My mother also shared the same birthday, and my brother is a microbiologist/geneticist.
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#75
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 22, 2017 at 2:15 am)Alex K Wrote: You just need something, anything, that can replicate with less than perfect fidelity, and bam, Charlie D is in da house.

Hand pump in the air, "WHO LET THE FACTS OUT....WHOOT WHOOT, WHO LET THE FACTS OUT!"
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#76
RE: Evolution Questions
BTW, do medical message boards ever get members of the public posting and disputing why and how appendectomies are done ??

(think about it)
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#77
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 18, 2017 at 7:56 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(March 17, 2017 at 11:49 pm)val5662 Wrote: Ok, so after the big bang happened please explain in a nutshell where all the living creatures ,including us, came from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?

Everything's better with Spock:





I can imagine the OP might object with how suddenly the video jumps from describing geological processes to announcing that tiny organisms emerged. Everyone knows that God actually put the trees and other advanced organisms upon the earth first and then turned the lights on by creating the sun. Don't listen to the fake science people, creation science is yuuuuge.

(March 21, 2017 at 2:08 pm)val5662 Wrote: HuhNobody game me a real answer yet.Seriously, please explain your idea or theory of the question:
"Where did all the living creatures ,including us, come from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?"
Please try to refrain from just joking around or asking a question to my question.Thanks! Smile


Lots of posters have ventured theories of what your question might be about.  You just haven't responded.
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#78
RE: Evolution Questions
Well, we're not following the script that was written for us by believers. In that script we fall for every verbal trap and logic pitfall, 'cause we stupid, yo.
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#79
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 17, 2017 at 11:49 pm)val5662 Wrote: Ok, so after the big bang happened please explain in a nutshell where all the living creatures ,including us, came from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?


Where's the "Thank you, everyone, for correcting my misconceptions about the connection between the Big Bang and evolution."?

There are multiple theories on how life got started on Earth, from abiogenesis to panspermia - feel free to look up these ideas on actual science websites, not some creationists conspiracy site.

How did we become what we are?

We evolved, over hundreds of millions of years.

And before you say, "just a theory", learn what the word means in a scientific context.

I believe I can see where this is going: Long series of leading questions then a claim or rationale to support or reinforce your own non acceptance of science.

This is Ray Comfort level of "curiosity", I suspect.

I'll apologise if I'm wrong.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#80
RE: Evolution Questions
(March 22, 2017 at 11:58 am)vorlon13 Wrote: BTW, do medical message boards ever get members of the public posting and disputing why and how appendectomies are done ??

(think about it)

Yes, actually.

Perhaps not appendectomies directly, but many other tried and proven medical procedures.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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