The false self and our knowledge of it's deception proves God.

[Brian37]

Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

1. Worship is unnecessary. Not only unnecessary but can become quite dangerous en mass and always based on blind faith and/or  gullibility.

2. Yea we do tend to value ourselves most. If humans didn't EVOLVE to value self we would not look both ways before crossing the street. No need to plop Allah or Yahweh or Vishnu or Buddha in to try to explain nature. Humans evolved to form groups and have a tendency to defend that which is local and that which one is familiar with.

No need to go any further on your list.

[chimp3]

MysticKnight : "Therefore we are false gods."

Is that you ProgrammingGodJordan?

[Harry Nevis]

Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

What a load of crap.

[Ben Davis]

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Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

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I value some others more than myself, some less. Your false oversimplification is still not evidence for the existence of any deity. Trying to 'ought' god in to existence is ridiculous.

Also, I've pulled you up before for claiming you know what I think and feel. You're doing it again. STOP IT

[Athene]

Good googly moogly, son...How many times are you gonna try to re-package and sell the same crap? Zoinks!

Your name is now MysticSpammer.

[Brian37]

Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

What a load of crap.

To be fair to MK it is the same with any religion. As soon as you start your argument with "My=insert naked assertion here" you have no neutrality.

[Chad32]

Actually I'm pretty sure there are people who want others to value them more than themselves. The military runs on that logic. Kings felt that way too, and these ancient books were written at a time where the populous worshiping kings and emporers was common. That just doesn't fly in the modern age.

I do value myself above others, and the reason I don't expect others to, is because I expect everyone to value themselves above others. That way they don't wind up dying needlessly. I don't know how this proves a god. And yet I doubt this will be the last thread you make, trying to prove a god through mental gymnastics.

These things people take the time to realize about themselves. They question, why do I love myself more than others? Why do I centralize my life for myself? 

You saying it should be simply because it should be, when it's a paradox, is highly problematic. You are not sure, ok, fair enough, seek to discover, are we interconnected, should be valuing ourselves over others or not? The paradox is you don't believe you ought to objectively be valued more so by others, yet you value yourself. This has to say something. We aren't acting to truth, we are acting to falsehood...

Of course, there are people who value others as much as themselves or some more than themselves, but they are a minority.

It's not a paradox. I value myself above others because I'm responsible for my body. No one else is. At least not once I grew up enough to take care of myself. It's just a personal responsibility to value yourself more than others, otherwise you'd wither away and die.

[Mystic]

These things people take the time to realize about themselves. They question, why do I love myself more than others? Why do I centralize my life for myself? 

You saying it should be simply because it should be, when it's a paradox, is highly problematic. You are not sure, ok, fair enough, seek to discover, are we interconnected, should be valuing ourselves over others or not? The paradox is you don't believe you ought to objectively be valued more so by others, yet you value yourself. This has to say something. We aren't acting to truth, we are acting to falsehood...

Of course, there are people who value others as much as themselves or some more than themselves, but they are a minority.

It's not a paradox. I value myself above others because I'm responsible for my body. No one else is. At least not once I grew up enough to take care of myself. It's just a personal responsibility to value yourself more than others, otherwise you'd wither away and die.

That doesn't follow. All that proves is you ought to take responsibility for yourself and actions, not that you ought to value yourself more than others.

[Mister Agenda]

Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

1. By some people.
2. Except many parents.
3. Except young children.
4. You don't know what 'double think' means, apparently.
5. They believe they should value themselves the most, a true belief by definition if they actually believe that.
6. We're not gods at all. But thanks for watering down the idea of 'gods' so much that it basically means nothing.
7. If any of your premises held water, what it suggests to you would only be what it suggests to you, and you can't reasonably call what something suggests to you proof of anything.
8. If there's something we should all value the most, it doesn't follow that it should be a god. Maybe what we should all value the most is truth, even if it isn't what we want it to be.

[Faith No More]

Deception of ourselves and our knowledge of our false idol proves God.

1. Worship is what is valued most.
2. Each person tends to value themselves the most.
3. No person believes others ought to value them the most.
4. We are in double think where we value ourselves as number one but don't believe others ought to value ourselves the most.
5. Each person committed to valuing themselves the most thus creates a false belief, they don't truly believe they should be valued most and hence are believing and acting to lie.
6. Therefore we are false gods.
7. This suggests there is something we should value the most that is not us and that everything should value the most as well.
8. That being is that which out to be valued the most by us and by all (God).

Jesus Christ, man, give it up. You're embarrassing yourself so badly at this point that it's starting to get awkward.

Pro Tip: If you have to use phrasing like "This suggests," you're not proving anything but your own incompetence.