Islam; my faith; and other faiths

[Minimalist]

All do originate from the same source.

Yes.  An insignificant tribe of Iron Age goat herders.   No deity involved.

[chimp3]

If there's a wrong verse, I'll disbelieve. Believing a lie is something bad.

Considering wrong verses , have you ever read "The Satanic Verses" by Salman Rushdie?

[Mystic]

Is religion needed for humans?

Humanity needs the true religion which is guidance from God.

[chimp3]

Is religion needed for humans?

Humanity needs the true religion which is guidance from God.

You mean guidance from the imaginary rantings of the creators of gods.

[Mystic]

Humanity needs the true religion which is guidance from God.

You mean guidance from the imaginary rantings of the creators of gods.

No that is exactly what secular academia teach, that we were in need of Shaman figures throughout our ancient past, but now are not in need of.  Rather let us just follow chaotic morality and call it more advanced because we got technology!

Reality is if we were in need of Shamans and God exists, he would have provided the real Shamans who are connected to the real unseen guidance.

And the reality is we are more in need of such true Shaman figure in this age than any time in the past.

[Crunchy]

+I : I believe in the Quran only. I take whatever is inside the book, and neglect whatever is outside. I use evidence from inside the book itself.

The Hadith paint the picture of how a murderer, rapist and pedophile came to conquer Arabia so it's no wonder you chose to ignore them, but the Quran is no better. It's just written in a more flowery and confusing way.

I've read the Quran and was not impressed. It's an awful lot of plagiarism from the bible and by far the main focus is pure hatred of the unbeliever. 
You can pretend all you want that there are some "nice" passages and some "bad" passages, therefore this somehow cancels out. But the truth is quite different.

A simple counting shows that "the unbeliever" is the most common feature of the Quran. Muhammad, like all cult leaders, was obsessed with being followed and obeyed. Counting up the nice things that Muhammad says about unbelievers vs the absolutely horrid and vile things he says and counsels to do to them will easily put to rest the lie of "some good and some bad" and it is ridiculously easy to see the huge overburden of vile xenophobia found throughout the Quran.

So, I'd like to here from a moderate Muslim like yourself. How can you give your approval and support to so may evil ideas? Do you think that just redacting them from your mind somehow makes the problems disappear from the world outside your mind?

[Minimalist]

Yeah, tell us all about your fucking morality, asshole.

[chimp3]

You mean guidance from the imaginary rantings of the creators of gods.

No that is exactly what secular academia teach, that we were in need of Shaman figures throughout our ancient past, but now are not in need of.  Rather let us just follow chaotic morality and call it more advanced because we got technology!

Reality is if we were in need of Shamans and God exists, he would have provided the real Shamans who are connected to the real unseen guidance.

And the reality is we are more in need of such true Shaman figure in this age than any time in the past.

Your imagination is hard at work , MK!

He who knows himself knows the creator of his god! - Chimp3

[WinterHold]

I just wanted to say:

The member MysticKnight doesn't represent me. I neither believe in his religion, nor do I believe in what he preach.

He is a Shiite, belonging to the third category in my OP.

His smelly posts are annoying, he is a stalker.
I put him in my ignore list.

[Crunchy]

You mean guidance from the imaginary rantings of the creators of gods.

And the reality is we are more in need of such true Shaman figure in this age than any time in the past.

So 1400 years of dictatorship and theocracy is not enough for you. You want it in perpetuity?

How's that been working out for the middle east?

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I just wanted to say:

The member MysticKnight doesn't represent me. I neither believe in his religion, nor do I believe in what he preach.

He is a Shiite, belonging to the third category in my OP.

His smelly posts are annoying, he is a stalker.
I put him in my ignore list.

Ok great, can you answer my question above in post #36?