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Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
#31
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 5, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 2:14 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: All I know is that I've always wanted a light saber - mostly for stumping trees.

Wouldn't that be awesome if God told Abraham to kill his kid with a light saber? Come on why not, we are talking about a book with talking donkeys. Or what if instead of God calling for she bears he gets Chewy to maul the kids?

(May 5, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Aroura Wrote: Right, and Darth is presented as a bad guy.  

So, at what point would a person no longer be eligible for forgiveness?  After killing 100 people, 500, 1000?  Give us an exact number here.

Either people should be forgiven if they truly repent, or not.  If you try and qualify it with specific crimes, then you are not in favor of second chances or forgiveness, you are in favor of your personal definition of Justice.




"Oh shit I drunk and drove"  forgivable not murdering 5 million Jews. I could not forgive Hilter. If he hadn't killed himself I would have simply locked him up in prison for the rest of his life. Again if Hilter had been my dad, no I would NOT forgive him, but that doesn't mean I want revenge, but I would not be under any obligation to speak a word to him after knowing what he did. Genocide isn't something you can say "I am sorry" to even if you mean it.  

Even if it is the death of one person, nobody has a right to tell the individual who they forgive or dont forgive. It is more understandable when it is accidental or the heat of passion, but the higher the numbers that can be only called deliberate and someone like that if they are willing to commit genocide is probably NOT going to ask for forgiveness. Both Sadam and Gadaffi were defiant going to their deaths. And since Darth reflects the megelomanaic mindset of a psychopath in real life someone like that would not ask for forgiveness in any case.

Holy shit, I wish I had a billion dollars I would make a movie mixing Star Wars with the bible!

Princes Lea is Mary.
Luke Skywalker is Jesus
Han Solo is Joseph
Ben is the holy ghost
Yoda is GOD
Darth Vader is also God/Lucifer

"Again if Hilter had been my dad, no I would NOT forgive him" is just a hilarious quote Tongue
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#32
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 5, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 12:17 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The first three were brilliantly put together as far as special effects, acting, and especially the music. But that plot no, I look back at that plot, find it very disturbing now.

I find your lack of faith...disturbing.

I forget who said "A plot often gets in the way of a good movie." Most plots are pretexts for action and scenery. This is especially true in musicals, IMNSHO. 

Ah, another pertinent point. "A movie is graffitti writ large."

For those of you who go to movies looking for great art remember how many movies are made compared to the number that are memorable.
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#33
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 5, 2017 at 8:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 12:54 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Which is why it is good that this is only a movie. In real life we punish genocidal maniacs. Or I should say, we try. 

It really does unfortunately smack of biblical principles. Nobody holds him to account because all he had to say was "oops, my fault".


Do you mean no one holds Lucas to account for working in what you see as biblical themes?  Meh, I doubt if he cares and for the majority in this country it would probably be a plus.  Besides, who says the bible can't have perfectly good story lines as a work of fiction in addition to all the begetting lists and what not?

Holy crap. Jeeze wow, some people act like I was Ozzie Ozborn and pissed on the Alamo. It's just a movie. I know he doesn't give a shit. I was simply pointing out it would not surprise me if the themes of Catholic/Buddhism were part of his inspiration.  I just don't see the plot the same way I did as when I was a kid. Kinda like I see Santa as a authoritarian stalker now. 

It is still a masterpiece as far as acting, music, costumes and special effects. I was merely addressing the PLOT. 

"HOW DARE YOU PICK ON STAR WARS"......... Dodgy 

If it is just a movie, then take my criticism of the PLOT for just that.  Dodgy
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#34
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: I find your lack of faith...disturbing.

I forget who said "A plot often gets in the way of a good movie." Most plots are pretexts for action and scenery. This is especially true in musicals,

Ugh, I think I hate musicals.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#35
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 7:29 am)Alex K Wrote:
(May 6, 2017 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I forget who said "A plot often gets in the way of a good movie." Most plots are pretexts for action and scenery. This is especially true in musicals,

Ugh, I think I hate musicals.

Mama mia! How can you say that! 

Wink
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#36
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 8:08 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 6, 2017 at 7:29 am)Alex K Wrote: Ugh, I think I hate musicals.

Mama mia! How can you say that! 

Wink

Yes I've been broken hearted, blue since the day we parted.........
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#37
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 8:25 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 6, 2017 at 8:08 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Mama mia! How can you say that! 

Wink

Yes I've been broken hearted, blue since the day we parted.........

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#38
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 9:15 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 6, 2017 at 8:25 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yes I've been broken hearted, blue since the day we parted.........

♫I can't forget how much you farted...♫

Fuck you dick! Big Grin Tongue
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#39
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 6:36 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: I find your lack of faith...disturbing.

I forget who said "A plot often gets in the way of a good movie." Most plots are pretexts for action and scenery. This is especially true in musicals, IMNSHO. 

I love musicals. But they belong on stage.

PS I also love how my cheap gag elicited a serious response.
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#40
RE: Why I don't view Star Wars the same way now.
(May 6, 2017 at 7:05 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 5, 2017 at 8:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Do you mean no one holds Lucas to account for working in what you see as biblical themes?  Meh, I doubt if he cares and for the majority in this country it would probably be a plus.  Besides, who says the bible can't have perfectly good story lines as a work of fiction in addition to all the begetting lists and what not?

Holy crap. Jeeze wow, some people act like I was Ozzie Ozborn and pissed on the Alamo. It's just a movie. I know he doesn't give a shit. I was simply pointing out it would not surprise me if the themes of Catholic/Buddhism were part of his inspiration.  I just don't see the plot the same way I did as when I was a kid. Kinda like I see Santa as a authoritarian stalker now. 

It is still a masterpiece as far as acting, music, costumes and special effects. I was merely addressing the PLOT. 

"HOW DARE YOU PICK ON STAR WARS"......... Dodgy 

If it is just a movie, then take my criticism of the PLOT for just that.  Dodgy


No, you misunderstand me.  I don't care about criticizing Star Wars.  Have at it.  I just don't think drawing parallels to biblical themes is necessarily a negative.
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