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NSA contractor arrested
#11
RE: NSA contractor arrested
(June 6, 2017 at 11:44 am)A Theist Wrote:
(June 6, 2017 at 6:34 am)chimp3 Wrote: ...
More power to her! ...
Yeah, especially if she gets the electric chair.

Maybe you shouldn't support such a fucking dick of an orange asshat?

Trump stinks 1000% worse than Nixon.
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#12
RE: NSA contractor arrested
Okay, so this girl was not smart. I don't like the hero talk. She wasn't a whistleblower. She took a classified document out of a government facility for politically motivated payback.

She isn't stopping Trump from doing something illegal. She isn't releasing information that wouldn't be known to a Special Prosecutor or that the American people need to know for their safety. Also, her methodology was idiotic. She didn't redact any of the information that led people immediately back to her.

I get whistleblowers and leakers, and I get that they are important. This, however, was careless and I think it'll do more harm than good.
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#13
RE: NSA contractor arrested
she's going to sit in prison until Hillary is elected president . . . .
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#14
RE: NSA contractor arrested
Quote:Watergate pales to what we're confronting now

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was rather reserved in his testimony before Congress, and in his most recent appearance his comments were nearly drowned out by the strong interest in hearing from former acting attorney general Sally Yates. This week, Clapper is on the far side of the planet, speaking before Australia’s National Press Club. Oddly enough, he sounds louder from there.

The former US director of national intelligence James Clapper says events in Washington now are more serious than the Watergate scandal of the 1970s, and that it is imperative investigators get to the bottom of the Trump administration’s links with the Putin regime.

Clapper is right. Trump’s attempts to suborn Comey, Coats, and Pompeo (at a minimum) far exceed the level of interference that eventually drove Nixon from office. He’s also right that it’s extremely important that we understand the details of Russian involvement in the 2016 election—interference that went far beyond hacking into email accounts and spreading stories through social media—as well as learn the truth about connections between Trump and Russia.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/7...l=facebook
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#15
RE: NSA contractor arrested
(June 7, 2017 at 4:46 am)Isis Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 4:26 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Yeah no but it will be nice to see your dear leader behind bars . Best pray treason trials  don't expand to Trump supporters . But here's some advice don't drop the soap

Why would Trump supporters/voters be charged with treason? I doubt that even Trump himself would be charged with something like that, or even impeached in the first place.

I was doing a mockery of the MacArthur trials. I was not being serious

"Have you now or have you every been a Trump supporter? "

Not mention the fact that ye old Newt Gingrich during Trumps campaign called for a similar idea.
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#16
RE: NSA contractor arrested
Quote:or that the American people need to know for their safety.

Where does it say that we only get to hear information that the government decides we need for our "safety?"


And, more to the point, would you really want a fuckhead like the WLB making such a determination?
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#17
RE: NSA contractor arrested
(June 7, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:or that the American people need to know for their safety.

Where does it say that we only get to hear information that the government decides we need for our "safety?"


And, more to the point, would you really want a fuckhead like the WLB making such a determination?

I didn't say any of that. This information does not effect my safety or security, and it was top secret information. As a person who held a Top Secret clearance at one point, I understand why that information is classified the way it was. And that's not the WLB's decision anyhow.

Releasing information about how the Russians attempted to access voting officials and electronics makes an attempt to catch them in the act next time much more difficult.

I'm all for making the WLB look worse, but this isn't the way.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#18
RE: NSA contractor arrested
Given the political realities of the current millennium we need people like Snowden and Manning to keep these fuckers honest.

No.  I am not comfortable relying on the government's determination of what is classified info and what is not.  They have abused that trust one time too many.
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#19
RE: NSA contractor arrested
(June 7, 2017 at 6:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Given the political realities of the current millennium we need people like Snowden and Manning to keep these fuckers honest.

No.  I am not comfortable relying on the government's determination of what is classified info and what is not.  They have abused that trust one time too many.

I agree. My contention is that the government wasn't wrong in this situation.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#20
RE: NSA contractor arrested
(June 7, 2017 at 4:46 am)Isis Wrote:
(June 7, 2017 at 4:26 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Yeah no but it will be nice to see your dear leader behind bars . Best pray treason trials  don't expand to Trump supporters . But here's some advice don't drop the soap

Why would Trump supporters/voters be charged with treason? I doubt that even Trump himself would be charged with something like that, or even impeached in the first place.

It's happened before, not exactly our finest hours (or maybe they are, lol?)....but it is something that we have a long history of doing.  One story goes that Nero's servants were slaughtered and/or ordered to commit suicide.  One wonders whether the baker got or really deserved this fate.  What one doesn't wonder about..is who it was that would have sealed it for him.  Nero.  

Our country was founded on a moment when fealty to the king, was treason to the nation....and then again that affirmation was made plain, when fealty to ones heritage was treason to the union.

/ shrugs
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