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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm
(June 12, 2017 at 10:04 am)Drich Wrote: 1, Malichi is simply asking a question.. How much does salvation cost?
2) don't forget the passages where Jesus says all you need do is simply believe.. But Mat.19 does say follow the commandments. Then Gal 2 says we are not justified by works.
So my question is why can't it be both?
We simply follow the commands, but aren't justified by them. We are justified through love.
For example if I bring my GF flowers out of the blue from time to time it doesn't mean we will get married out of this one act. However with love this act (following the rules of courtship) may indeed lead to my marriage. That said there were a few others who were following the same rules trying to do the same thing... Meaning (Gal2:16) However inorder to get married I did follow the rules of western courtship, and we did get married, but we did not get married because I followed said rules. I followed said rule because I wanted to get married and I knew that what she wanted me to do. because we loved each other. That is the gal 2:16 part. We are justified not by the courtship (law) for marriage but by love.
The reason we got married was based on our love for each other, however the rule of law was something I knew would make he happy, so I followed those rules. The man asked Jesus a simple question. What good thing do I need to do to enter eternal life? Jesus answer was also simple. Keep the commandments. then he said sell all your goods give to the poor and follow me. Notice the actions come first. It could be bothor one or the other. That's why there are so many denominations of Christianity. The best they can do is agree to disagree.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 1:26 pm
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm
You would go to jail if you do most of the commandments. Stone adulterers and disobedient children, sell your daughter into sexual slavery, walk around naked because all the clothes being sold today have mixed fabric, buy and sell the children of foreigners, etc. And if you're a masochist, loving your neighbor as yourself could result in some pissed off neighbors.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 2:21 pm
(June 11, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: If you are intent on finding contradictions then you probably won't understand how these can work together.
We know exactly how these actually do work together. They work exactly like the lies of a bunch of 3rd rate hucksters who had 2000 years to figure out how to deceive and browbeat the dumbest of the human specie can be expected to work.
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm
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(June 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: And if you're a masochist, loving your neighbor as yourself could result in some pissed off neighbors.
Not to mention their husbands.
What?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm
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(June 11, 2017 at 9:07 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (June 11, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Cyberman Wrote: A woman stopped me in town once and asked if I was saved yet. I told her I'd just saved at the checkpoint round the corner, so I could always respawn from there. She looked awfully confused.
I've tried saving people before, but they make such a mess when you try getting them through the little slot in the piggy bank...
Push harder, those Christians really need to be saved!
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 3:42 pm
(June 12, 2017 at 2:23 pm)Cyberman Wrote: (June 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: And if you're a masochist, loving your neighbor as yourself could result in some pissed off neighbors.
Not to mention their husbands.
What? What do you mean "what?" I didn't say nothing. I'm not going to open my mouth.
Oh damn. I just gave you that one. Here it comes.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 4:38 pm
Hope you can swallow fast.
I'm so sorry...
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 5:46 pm
just like camels thru the eyes of needles, Christians thru the little slot are so much easier if they are pureed first
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RE: How Can I Get Saved?
June 12, 2017 at 9:12 pm
(June 12, 2017 at 4:38 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Hope you can swallow fast.
I'm so sorry... Little rabbit singing with a guitar.
Ever notice when you're mixing up some Quik? You stir it until it's rich and thick. You hate to taste that first little sip, cuz you know Quik is more than a sip.
It's so rich...and thick...and chocolatey
Butcha can't drink it slow if it's Quik, so do me no...
ssslurrrrp
That's the saddest sound I know.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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