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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 2:52 pm
I am really pissed about that.
And recent spate of indictments left out EPA poobah Hedman !!!
It is beyond obvious lawyers for those that were indicted just need to point out how complicit the EPAs Hedman was and didn't get indicted and there is reasonable doubt nixing any chance of a conviction of the bunch.
Not only is it un-PC for some reason to hold folks who know better responsible, it is even un-PC to gripe about it.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 2:54 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 2:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: More EPA approved lead in their water too ?
Possibly along with Michigan GOP apathy and indifference
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 2:55 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 2:48 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Lost the fucking election over it.
How is that fucking better in any fucking way ?
So we should win by lying or dodging on important issues ? How fucking big a fucking wake up call beyond 11/8 does it fucking take?
Art of the deal, sell the bad news, don't fucking rub their noses in the shit and fucking tell them to fucking like it. Marketing fucking 101.
Jesus, I think we have a new DNC chair nominee . . .
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 2:55 pm
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(June 16, 2017 at 2:52 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I am really pissed about that.
And recent spate of indictments left out EPA poobah Hedman !!!
It is beyond obvious lawyers for those that were indicted just need to point out how complicit the EPAs Hedman was and didn't get indicted and there is reasonable doubt nixing any chance of a conviction of the bunch.
Not only is it un-PC for some reason to hold folks who know better responsible, it is even un-PC to gripe about it.
Yup he should be jailed no argument here.
(June 16, 2017 at 2:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 2:48 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: So we should win by lying or dodging on important issues ? How fucking big a fucking wake up call beyond 11/8 does it fucking take?
Art of the deal, sell the bad news, don't fucking rub their noses in the shit and fucking tell them to fucking like it. Marketing fucking 101.
Jesus, I think we have a new DNC chair nominee . . .
Were did she rub it in there faces ?. running for president should not be like selling dish soap . Id take brutal honesty over sleazy marketing tactics any day . Selling bad news seems no different then what preachers and demagogues do .
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 3:16 pm
I agree with Joe Biden, Trump, and Rand Paul that if the government starts showing up at people's homes to confiscate everyone's guns, then maybe it's time to start shooting. Guns are meant to be a defense against tyranny. I don't like the use of violence in this situation against the Republicans though. Yes, the Repubs have a lot of fucked up policy positions and they are messing with people's health care and shitting on gay and trans rights and things like that, but these things can be changed politically, eventually. Now is not the time for violence.
I don't think there's anything wrong with not having sympathy for Scalise. I feel sorry for everyone in a way since I recognize that there is no free will, but when it comes down to it, pretty much every Republican politician is a huge piece of shit. Same goes for the Dems. These are some truly disgusting people, so I can understand people saving their sympathy for those who are more deserving of it. This violence should be condemned though. If a Repub politician is old and happens to die and there was no violence involved, go ahead and celebrate then. No issue with that.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 3:26 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: (June 16, 2017 at 1:40 pm)wallym Wrote: I think a point you inadvertently hit on, is that it is definitely "You" now. On the right, we have the loonie wing that likes Beck, Jones, and Limbaugh, and if Harry Reid died, they'd all dance a little jig on air, and their followers would do the same. But we also have the Romney Wing on this side, and we aren't cheering for anybody to die. We don't particularly like the Jones/Beck/Limbaugh group, and they don't particularly like us.
On the left, it was my impression that it used to be the same. There are seemingly unstable people like yourself who will rant and rave and super cleverly add cunt and tard as suffixes to various words. But at the same time, there were plenty of people who were reasonable, and mostly interested in solving the same problems the Romney wing was trying to solve, but from a more government/progressive perspective.
But the reasonable people on the left seem to have wandered off. People who have no excuses for being batshit insane, are now cheering when people die. Oh, some republican got shot? Fuck 'em! Scalia died? Rot in hell. That's fine and expected from you. But there needs to be a group to counterbalance your dopiness, or things are going to get out of hand.
Yeah, reality isn't jiving with your picture of a far right that's not as bad as the far left. There are plenty of groups to counterbalance the crazy far left. The problem is, both sides are fucking the rest of us over. Why does no one notice the crazy conservatives in here all of a sudden?
I'm not getting where the idea I'm sympathetic to the far right is coming from. I called them the loonie wing, and said I don't like them.
What I've noticed, is that normal people. College educated well-to-do white liberals with families and steady jobs and friendly personalities, when they start talking politics are now pretty over the top. Trump is Hitler. Die Scum Die! They're supposed to be the nice people. The humanists and progressives and such. I'm just anecdotally seeing a shift. Could just be a fluke.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 3:29 pm
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College educated well-to-do liberals didn;t make Trump pull a Hitler. I'm really not getting what you find surprising in opposition to going full hitler among college educated well-to-do liberals. They read the reich as a morality play, Our Fuhrer seems to think it was an instructable.
Nice people do and would and -should- wish for the deaths of all the worlds little hitlers. If they didn't, they really wouldn't be all that nice. Ask the jews.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 3:35 pm
So nice people wouldn't stop Hitler wally ?
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm
(June 16, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: College educated well-to-do liberals didn;t make Trump pull a Hitler. I'm really not getting what you find surprising in opposition to going full hitler among college educated well-to-do liberals. They read the reich as a morality play, Our Fuhrer seems to think it was an instructable.
Nice people do and would and -should- wish for the deaths of all the worlds little hitlers. If they didn't, they really wouldn't be all that nice. Ask the jews.
"I hope nothing bad happens to hitler" - said no decent person, ever.
People really seem to know nothing about hitler and how he came to power.
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RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 16, 2017 at 4:04 pm
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