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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 5:10 pm
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(July 1, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (July 1, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Aliza Wrote: Wow... That's horrifying. What charity are you currently supporting to address this situation? I'll make a contribution.
He's omnipresent and omnipotent. The fact that we'd need charities at all shows he isn't doing all he can to help people that need it.
I'm not a Christian. I'm a Jew. If we have a problem, we have to fix it.
... Isn't that how you'd respond to a problem?
(July 1, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: (July 1, 2017 at 2:01 pm)Aliza Wrote: Wow... That's horrifying. What charity are you currently supporting to address this situation? I'll make a contribution.
Charities are in existence and that still happens. Doesn't seem like charities are the solution.
I think a strong argument can be made that charities are not sufficient to solve the problem. Do you have ideas on what might work?
I don't. It's just not my area of expertise.
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 5:30 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 5:10 pm)Aliza Wrote: (July 1, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Chad32 Wrote: He's omnipresent and omnipotent. The fact that we'd need charities at all shows he isn't doing all he can to help people that need it.
I'm not a Christian. I'm a Jew. If we have a problem, we have to fix it.
... Isn't that how you'd respond to a problem?
(July 1, 2017 at 4:56 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Charities are in existence and that still happens. Doesn't seem like charities are the solution.
I think a strong argument can be made that charities are not sufficient to solve the problem. Do you have ideas on what might work?
I don't. It's just not my area of expertise.
Yes, that's how I respond to a problem, because I don't worship a deity that I expect to be able to actually help me with my life.
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 6:35 pm
I really don't see what the fuck the point is of saying god has to be omni-anything. That just seems like protesting too much and fails at every turn anyway. Is there just a fear of insulting him by saying he's any less than that? Because I've never understood how anyone can possibly feel love for that monster, especially if they willingly acknowledge that they're also supposed to fear it, which not everyone is willing to do.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why
July 1, 2017 at 7:18 pm
Organized charities sound so good.... and they make such great commercials.... but
http://cironline.org/reports/part-1-dirt...ities-4603
Quote:The worst charity in America operates from a metal warehouse behind a gas station in Holiday, Fla.
Every year, Kids Wish Network raises millions of dollars in donations in the name of dying children and their families.
Every year, it spends less than 3 cents on the dollar helping kids.
Most of the rest gets diverted to enrich the charity’s operators and the for-profit companies Kids Wish hires to drum up donations.
who do you trust?
And pouring money into nations wracked by civil war virtually assures that people looking to buy bullets will get the lion's share of what arrives. I don't have an answer for this issue. Almost everything that someone does makes the problem worse.
The land cannot support the population. Thanks to the WLB and his climate hoax mentality this is only going to get worse.
At least the boxes are useful.
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 7:52 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Organized charities sound so good.... and they make such great commercials.... but
http://cironline.org/reports/part-1-dirt...ities-4603
Quote:The worst charity in America operates from a metal warehouse behind a gas station in Holiday, Fla.
Every year, Kids Wish Network raises millions of dollars in donations in the name of dying children and their families.
Every year, it spends less than 3 cents on the dollar helping kids.
Most of the rest gets diverted to enrich the charity’s operators and the for-profit companies Kids Wish hires to drum up donations.
who do you trust?
And pouring money into nations wracked by civil war virtually assures that people looking to buy bullets will get the lion's share of what arrives. I don't have an answer for this issue. Almost everything that someone does makes the problem worse.
The land cannot support the population. Thanks to the WLB and his climate hoax mentality this is only going to get worse.
At least the boxes are useful.
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I use charity navigator to investigate charities. I also view their 990 forms online if I'm giving a sizable donation. Sadly, US domestic charities may be on the radar, but when money goes overseas, it's very difficult to track.
I did review your example charity from Holiday, Florida. I was hoping that there was some kind of misunderstanding that lead to an undeserved bad reputation, but to my horrified shock, they are indeed actually reporting donations of +14M and they're only using +3M for services. An appropriate overhead cost for a charity of that size is 15 - 20%. Carrying a 76% overhead takes some serious balls. Thanks for the tip on that. I'm inclined to be lazy about my research if I'm just giving a small donation, but my guard is back up now.
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.c...orgid=6115
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 8:11 pm
I used to be president of a dog rescue here in Arizona and am still deeply involved. We usually manage to to hit 80% of our expenses for rescuing dogs or paying their vet bills. No one gets paid a nickle . But then, dogs are so much nicer than people.
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 8:24 pm
Given the way they are allowed to operate, it's almost laughable to call it a charity if it's religious in nature.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 8:30 pm
Oh, wait. This will blow your mind. What Aliza referred to, the F. 990 for non-profits? Churches are exempt from filing even that. You want to talk about a big door opening for criminals, start there. Nothing more crooked than someone with "god" on his fucking lips.
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 1, 2017 at 11:40 pm
(July 1, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, wait. This will blow your mind. What Aliza referred to, the F. 990 for non-profits? Churches are exempt from filing even that. You want to talk about a big door opening for criminals, start there. Nothing more crooked than someone with "god" on his fucking lips.
And that's just this country. Think about how they must operate overseas. Hell, look at fucking Mother Teresa's racket.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
July 2, 2017 at 12:15 am
(July 1, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, wait. This will blow your mind. What Aliza referred to, the F. 990 for non-profits? Churches are exempt from filing even that. You want to talk about a big door opening for criminals, start there. Nothing more crooked than someone with "god" on his fucking lips.
As a religious person, I can't really speak to that. -I mean, I know it happens, and I know it happens within my own religion, but I wouldn't put my money into some black hole like that. I may be guilty of being a little too lazy to look when the dollar amount is small, but if I'm not allowed to see the budget, then they're not getting a dime from me.
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